The Russia Poison Story is WMD 2.0
So you know the poisoning of Sergei Skripal? The incident that is causing British Prime Minister Theresa May to start a war of words with the Russians that could potentially lead to World War III? Well, imagine explaining the story to your MSM-addicted, normie friend:
YOU: Hey, did you know the US government has a top secret bioweapon that they use to kill their political enemies? Well, no one has actually proven it exists much less collected any samples of it, but trust me, it exists and they use it.
FRIEND: What? Secret bioweapon? No evidence? Ugh! Shut up, burglary theorist! . . . errrr, I mean, Shut up, conspiracy theorist!
YOU: Oops, did I say the US government? I meant the Russian government.
FRIEND: Oh, the Russian government, you say? Well, then, this sounds perfectly believable.
Yes, believe it or not, that is essentially what we are being told by the powers-that-shouldn’t-be. “The Russians are using a super-secret poison that may or may not exist but we’re too busy to provide any evidence for this. Just trust us. Oh, and let’s threaten a world nuclear superpower based on this non-evidence, too!”
So what exactly is a “Novichok,” and, more importantly, are they even real? Join James as he explores the WMD 2.0 hype and the run up to WWIII in this week’s Corbett Report Subscriber newsletter.
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Did send an email a few days back, Porton down would have this. Handy that they could identify it so locally.
Great article James, I was hoping you would look into this.
A nurse (off duty) administered first aid to Yulia Skripal at the scene. The nurse doesn’t seem to have suffered any effects but a Detective Inspector (Nick Bailey) was apparently contaminated as he was first to respond? But doesn’t clarify where he was contaminated? First is was at scene, then at Skripal’s house? But they still do not know how or where the Skripal’s were exposed?
The initial call was to 2 overdoses, why send a DI? Not a couple of street police? As they would normally here in the UK.
The military were involved very quickly. With all evidence being sent to ….yes…porton down!
They have removed the 2 ambulances that took the Skripals to hospital. They removed his BMW and the DI’s car – all loaded onto a low loader truck, by military in hazmat suits, covered with tarpaulin (i guess it must be NBC proof tarps!) And regular joes to drive the trucks (in military fatigues, not hazmat suits?)
They have removed tables and chairs from the restaurant and Pub they visited but the bench they collapsed at, is still in situ, covered with …..yes…..a canvas tent!
The government are meant to be providing evidence to the OPCW but I don’t think they have.
Although, unfortunately, many brits do blindly follow MSM (who were the ones who started the finger pointing at Russia! Before the government) and what the government say but there are many who are questioning this bizarre narrative that makes no sense?
Especially as another ex Russian spy was strangled to death in London, not long after.
It all stinks of problem, reaction, solution to me.
Keep up the great work James.
One of my favourites was the tent placed over the car park ticket machine days after the alleged incident along with the photo of the fireman in regular uniforms supervising the fellows in full hazmat gear. The photo of the fireman et al is at the top of this excellent thread: https://twitter.com/i/moments/975039211735801857
Oh yes and there was also the advice given to people by Prof. Dame Sally Davies, the chief medical officer for England, who said the risk of harm to fellow diners was “low” but to wash their clothes, almost a week following the alleged incident.
“The advice to wash possessions applies to anyone in either venue between 13:30 GMT on Sunday 4 March and closure on Monday: Clothes should be washed, ideally in a washing machine.” etc.
“Dame Sally said after “rigorous scientific analysis” there was some concern that prolonged exposure over weeks and months could cause health problems but it was “not a subject for panic”. She said the advice was a “belt and braces” measure, adding: “I am confident none of these customers or staff will have suffered harm.” http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43362673
Hogwash I say. This is one of the most riddled Swiss cheese controlling-the-narrative, damage control propaganda exercises that I’ve ever witnessed. A remarkable new low in the show under the big top. It would be that much more amusing if it wasn’t so extremely dangerous.
Great article. I gave out several hardy laughs but you are right.Why do we allow for such sloppiness at the CIA or MIC?
It is “puerile rule” as the order of the day!
What would the Russian government motive be? According to MoA, “It was not Russian vengeance for Skripal’s earlier spying. He had been in Russian jails for four years and lived openly in Salisbury for eight. There was plenty of time to off him. Russia certainly does not need any more anti-Russian propaganda in “western” media. If a Russian service would want to kill someone it would do so without making such noise.”
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/spy-posions-spy-and-the-anti-trump-campaign.html
MoA thinks the motivation could possibly be tied to Skripal’s connection to Christopher Steele. According to The Telegraph, “Col Skripal moved to Salisbury in 2010 in a spy swap and became close to a security consultant employed by Christopher Steele, who compiled the Trump dossier.”
“The British security consultant, according to a LinkedIn social network account that was removed from the internet in the past few days, is also based in Salisbury.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/07/poisoned-russian-spy-sergei-skripal-close-consultant-linked/
The consultant has been reported to be Pablo Miller, an undercover MI6 agent who’s job it was to recruit Russians. Miller’s LinkedIn profile listed Orbis Business Intelligence as a former employer. Orbis is Christopher Steele’s private intelligence company.
Again, MoA states in their article, “Steele was an MI6 undercover agent in Moscow around the time when Skripal was recruited and handed over Russian secrets to the MI6. He also ran the MI6 Russia desk so anything about Skripal will have passed through him. It is very likely that they personally knew each other. Pablo Miller, who worked for Steele’s private company, lived in the same town as Skripal and they seems to have been friends since Miller had recruited him. Miller or someone else attempted to cover up the connection to Steele by editing his LinkedIn entry.”
MoA asks these questions:
“-Did Skripal help Steele to make up the “dossier” about Trump?
-Were Skripal’s old connections used to contact other people in Russia to ask about Trump dirt?
-Did Skripal threaten to talk about this?”
Britons back May over Corbyn to handle Russia row, poll finds
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/17/britons-back-may-over-corbyn-to-handle-russia-row-poll-finds
Perhaps in response to The Guardian’s “accidental” opening of the comments section on their previous article which led to people’s comments on Corbyn’s sensible response to the Skripal poisoning allegations, they decided to run a little poll to show that Theresa May has the favor of the people regarding Russia. Haha, so petty.
“The findings [of the Opinium/Observer poll] suggest the prime minister’s action in expelling 23 Russian diplomats and blaming Moscow directly for the Salisbury nerve agent attack has struck far more of a chord with the British people than the Labour leader’s [Jeremy Corbyn] more cautious response.
While Corbyn is seen by 48% as a leader who sticks to his principles – compared with 39% who say May does – the prime minister is seen as better equipped to stand up for the national interest.”
What are these principles of which you speak?
Ask The Guardian, they wrote the article.
Isn’t it funny how a fish-wrap like the Guardian refers to politicians having principles? From mayor on up, never met one that did.
You can run into a principled politician once and again. These are the guys that got thrown out of their party or those who had to quit due to health concerns.
They never get elected either. After all, if any politician were to tell the masses the real truth, on any subject, the masses would reject it as too harsh. People want easy problems and solutions that require no effort on their part. Laziness is a huge aspect of why people accept slavery (I call all statists slaves as they insist on having a master) rather than freedom. Laziness and fear are top contenders, though the fear is only there because they are too lazy to think for themselves. Of course, I live in fluorida where the trial for our governor can be found on youboob. It was a fraud (record fraud) case involving medicare (or medicare, I get those mixed up as I don’t care about them). Or local mayor is the town drunk who recently got so drunk at the local Elk’s Lodge that when he went to his SUV and put it in reverse, he noted he had to take a leak. He got out, with the car still in gear and had a Frank and beans incident when he zipped up while chasing his truck into the lake. He got his license back after just a couple of months because he was the proper sort. I could just go on and on and on. I call for evidence on principles when it comes to politicians, preachers, lawyers, doctors (hell, everyone. Of course, I am the grumpy old anarchist who just doesn’t cotton to outlanders.
In my neck of the woods, a decent human being can get ellected on an occasion. For instance, when the party needs someone who has a clean face, and usually that someone is an individual thinking they can actually change something, people get put on a list so that may attract some more votes, from people who otherwise wouldn’t even vote.
These people probably don’t understand how deep does the viper den go. Not in the beginning, at least.
Since I’ve been around, I have seen something like one decent politician on national level and another on local level. Basically, one was MP, the other a mayor, with a short MP spell. Again, the list thing.l, circumstances may allow for people to get in even if there was no intention to get them in in the first place. They both lasted for a decent while, and did some objectively good things. Not that it really matters in the long run.
I think that in the US, all of our towns/cities use a city manager. Which makes a mayor moot. It was a very successful end-run to prevent the change the people were supposedly voting to have enacted. I know one city council woman who isn’t corrupt, but let’s just say she is a very unsophisticated person in a very small town. In general, I look at politicians the same way I look at cops. If they were good people, they wouldn’t be working where they are working.
Yes, of course, you can’t trust them as far as you can throw them.
We don’t have these managers here, but there is always the “party” behind all the decision making so there really isn’t much a mayor can do, especially on the local level.
There is another mayor I forgot to mention, non partisan, he’s a bit of an eccentric and not very politician like in behavior; he has a short temper and some venom in his bite, but he managed to turn his municipality around, quite drastically at that.
I don’t know if he’s an upstanding person, but he did much good and a few thousand of his people can probably attest to that. He wins with some 80% support, has a small efficient team running the show. He gave it a shot on the national level, but his cohorts turned out to be a pack of thieves and liars so he cut them loose.
Funny incident regarding the Elk’s Lodge. I can just imagine. Politicians in action in Fluorida, home of the Zombies in spandex.
Hola HRS! Yeah, Fluorida politicians are a uniquely incompetent, yet completely corrupt, breed. I think we have Tejas beat by a mile in this regard, and I know how tough a gauge that is! What with Dubya being over yonder and all. Why statists believe they need these idiots to rule over them has me stumped. Of course, statism is a mental disease anyway. What sort of pathetic creature demands to have a master? Especially a master who can’t even zip up his pants properly. And people wonder why I don’t bother debating statists. You can’t outsmart stupid and I don’t care enough to get stupid enough for them to understand me. Unless I get upset, that is. Cheers, JimBob from fluorida; Land of the real zombies. Accept no substitutes!
In my 5 years in Montreal, I found mkey’s statements to be true in local elections, and in one instance known to me, I believe the person was actually killed, in a sense, not by assassination, but by the stress of trying to please “the people,” the PTSB looming above and around her and her own conscience.
In the US this happens too, but only out in rural areas, and then the local well meaning candidate spends all the time fighting the “County” or “the District” or the “Company” (logging, mining, predatory land development, polluters, water hogs, the big local payrollers who call the shots and aim where they please). These entities are intertwined and allied in a general sense, but not monolithic and there are ways they can be played against each other. Local politics really does matter there in things like keeping your well from getting poisoned. And just as in much of the county there are no fast food chains, because it lacks the requisite population density, it is expensive for big political money to control these areas directly. So they simply buffer and filter it from above.
My mother was such an activist who stayed sane and safe by staying naive a lot of the time, but she was not exceptionally ambitious. If you really start to fight the game, you will either be taken out (usually by outspending you into debt) or adapt, learn how to play the game and get promoted. I’ve seen people go both ways.
Thank you so much James for writing an article about this incredible charade.
In my opinion one of the reasons for the timing of this alleged incident is that the U.S., UK and NATO coalition friends are pretty peeved that their 7+ year long regime change mission in the sovereign country of Syria has not been successful. As you know well, Britain’s expulsion of Russian diplomats from the UK is a precursor to war. Russia has reciprocated with the addition of terminating the activities of the British Council which may possibly have been used as a front for infiltrating and using soft power.
This is a very interesting, insightful article written by a former #GCHQ officer which outlines “some contours relevant to understanding the possible roles of certain British intelligence officers in the #Skripal case.” #Novichok #EstonianConnection https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/skripal-russian-web-or-rusi-web
“Britain’s self-righteous tone when denouncing Russia for the alleged assassination of Sergei Skripal ignores its own not so distant history of engaging in state-sponsored assassinations.” https://www.mintpressnews.com/britains-not-so-distant-history-of-state-sponsored-assassinations/238974/
2016: “Recently published report entitled Britain’s Kill List accuses the Conservative government of extreme deception of parliament and therefore all citizens of Britain and the world more widely. Officially, Britain has never had a so-called ‘kill list’ but David Cameron had to admit to a limited extra judicial assassinations programme a few months ago, which we reported.” http://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/britains-secret-assassinations-programme-extended-kill-list/
“…in late 2016, Iranian scientists set out to study whether novichoks really could be produced from commercially available ingredients. Iran succeeded in synthesising a number of novichoks.”
I wouldn’t be surprised if the neocons of the U.S. and NATO accuse Iran of being part of this somehow based on this information. Let the military industrial complex machine be fed! It’s always hungry.
That’s a very good point and would be a desired possible outcome for the war mongering neocons of the West whose regime change operation in Syria has failed.
Meanwhile: “The ‘Novichok’ nerve agent allegedly used in the Sergei Skripal attack likely came from a country were Russian chemists were taken after the Soviet Union collapsed to continue their research, Russia’s OPCW envoy told RT… Such research was carried out not only in the USSR, but also in the US.†http://21stcenturywire.com/2018/03/17/opcw-soviet-toxins-were-smuggled-out-and-continued-in-other-countries-including-us/
Here’s a link to the article, “Iranian chemists identify Russian chemical warfare agents” which was published January 1, 2017.
Excerpts:
“Chemical weapons, and their precursors, were banned by the Chemical Weapons Convention, which has been signed and ratified by nearly all the countries in the world. However, the illegal use of chemical weapons, whether by state agencies or terrorist organisations, remains a threat. Chemical weapons were used by Iraqi forces in the 1980s against Iranian forces and Kurdish civilians. Some chemical weapons, such as chlorine gas, are believed to have been used in recent years in the Syrian civil war.”
[…]
“The Iranian researchers synthesised five ‘Novichok’ agents, along with four deuterated analogues… The syntheses were carried out on a micro-scale in order to minimize exposure.”
Source: http://www.spectroscopynow.com/details/ezine/1591ca249b2/Iranian-chemists-identify-Russian-chemical-warfare-agents.html?tzcheck=1,1,1,1,1&&tzcheck=1&tzcheck=1&tzcheck=1&tzcheck=1
A wee bit of predictive programming here or mere coincidence?
“For 20 years almost nobody heard of #Novichok. Then in Nov 2017 in a UK TV drama a Russian scientist used it to kill his colleagues. Just weeks later, UK alleged was used on #Skripal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_Back:_Retribution … Coincidence? Perhaps, but which most UK media have avoided any mention of.” https://twitter.com/ShoebridgeC/status/974775359957880833
“I found the episode and extracted the clip. Is the UK govt for real or are we all watching a reality TV show?” https://twitter.com/Syricide/status/974973177876099072
Good post(s)! Thanks for the video link.
You are most welcome.
Perhaps a quick tweek to incorporate the latest from CM – https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/first-recorded-successful-novichok-synthesis-was-in-2017-by-iran-in-cooperation-with-the-opcw/ ?…
Those dastardly Rooskies began selling THEIR oil for rubles on 6/6/2014. “That’s how your hard-core Commie works, Mandrake”. – Gen. Jack Ripper
It is indeed 100% similar to the “American Anthrax” story, just different names.
Nerve agents including Sarin and VX are manufactured by the British Government in Porton Down, just 8 miles from where Sergei Skripal was attacked. The official British government story is that these nerve agents are only manufactured “To help develop effective medical countermeasures and to test systemsâ€. source: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/the-elephant-in-the-room/
Links from http://www.reddit.com/r/wikileaks
Nafeez Ahmed: The UK government is manufacturing its nerve agent case for ‘action’ on Russia – Official claim that ‘Novichok’ points solely to Russia discredited
https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/the-british-governments-russia-nerve-agent-claims-are-bullshit-a69b4ee484ce
Craig Murray: .. scientists are not able to identify the nerve gas as being of Russian manufacture…[Story]
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/of-a-type-developed-by-liars/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
(This link is already posted by someone else, but Murray has many good post on his site about this incident)
The campaign over the Skripal poisoning: An international war provocation–From the standpoint of who benefits, the most likely guilty parties in the Skripal affair are London and Washington, rather than Moscow.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/17/pers-m17.html
US training Syria militants for false flag chemical attack as basis for airstrikes – Russian MoD – https://youtu.be/LmYCgK2zHCI
Assange: Iranian chemists synthesized five types of ‘novichok’ nerve agents and added their spectral signatures to UN’s chemical weapons database according to this article published in Spectroscopy Now on Jan 1, 2017. archive.is/AHpFL
https://mobile.twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/975178169060913152
Well, you know those bureaucrats; once you find a formula, you must always follow the procedures if you want that promotion.
I wasn’t aware of all this Russian poison drama… I’ve really been out of the Loop.
Thank goodness James keeps up with this kind of stuff, and colorfully tells the tale in a way which one can easily follow, with lots of added home-down humor.
I too am out of the loop. Every time Twitter or some other site tries to make me look at Trump, May, or Putin it makes me ill so I tend to look away. I wonder if that’s a secret strategy of theirs. Raise up such detestable leaders that the sensitive people can’t stand to look.
Here’s a comment I made earlier:
Before things get too far down the rabbit hole, dear readers, please note, in a 16 March article titled “The Novichok Story Is Indeed Another Iraqi WMD Scam†By Craig Murray he ends with this summary:
” … 1)Porton Down has acknowledged in publications it has never seen any Russian “novichoksâ€. The UK government has absolutely no “fingerprint†information such as impurities that can safely attribute this substance to Russia.
2) Until now, neither Porton Down nor the world’s experts at the Organization for the Prevention
of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) were convinced “Novichoks†even exist.
3) The UK is refusing to provide a sample to the OPCW.
4)“Novichoks†were specifically designed to be able to be manufactured from common ingredients on any scientific bench. The Americans dismantled and studied the facility that allegedly developed them. It is completely untrue only the Russians could make them, if anybody can.
5) The “Novichok†program was in Uzbekistan not in Russia. Its legacy was inherited by the Americans during their alliance with Karimov, not by the Russians. … ”
I do think some evidence, real and specific, is necessary, prior to jumping off a bridge with an unknown foundation.
I so agree Trudy Alan. Thus far there is no evidence that links the alleged Novichok or other nerve gas to being produced by Russia nor that it was even used. If a Novichok substance was in fact used, my bets are that it was produced by the US and UK and/or at their request, if not directly, via proxies. From the start, Craig Murray has been one of the best sources on this alleged incident. It’s important to note that he was the British Ambassador to Uzbekistan from August 2002 to October 2004 and in that capacity I understand that he was involved in overseeing inspections of the dismantling of the chemical weapons facility in Uzbekistan.
An article published at the NY Times on May 25, 1999 states:
“The United States and Uzbekistan have quietly negotiated and are expected to sign a bilateral agreement today to provide American aid in dismantling and decontaminating one of the former Soviet Union’s largest chemical weapons testing facilities, according to Defense Department and Uzbek officials.” http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/25/world/us-and-uzbeks-agree-on-chemical-arms-plant-cleanup.html
The alleged incident occurred on March 4, 2018. Craig Roberts’ first brief blog on the alleged Skripal poisoning incident, “Skripal is no Litvinenko” on March 6, 2018. In it he stated as follows:
“There is a major difference between Alexander Litvinenko and Sergei Skripal, which is not being reflected in the media. Litvinenko was a good man who attempted to expose abuses of power within Russia, in defence of the rights of Russians. Skripal is a traitor who sold the identities of Russian agents abroad to the UK, in exchange for hard cash. This may very well have caused the deaths of some of those Russian agents operating in conflict zones. If this is indeed a poisoning, there are a great many people who may want Mr Skripal dead – nor in this murky world should we overlook the fact that he must have known interesting things about his MI6 handlers. “Litvinenko II†is rather too pat and obvious, and could be a false flag set-up.
“I certainly hope that Skripal, his companion, and anybody else affected, recover fully from whatever has attacked them. But I moved long ago past a world view where my country are the “goodies†and Russians are the “baddiesâ€, and instead I reached an understanding that those in power oppress the people, universally. The idea that the elaborate spy games between world intelligence agencies are a battle between right and wrong, is for the story books. They are all wrong, all part of a system where power over people is controlled for the benefit of the wealthy, and battles are over hard resources, whichever “side†you are on.”
Source: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/skripal-no-litvinenko/
Given what has been and is going on in the UK along with in Syria etc., I found the timing of this incident very interesting, questionable. As such, from the start I have been inclined to agree with Craig Murray’s supposition that it was a false flag and will continue to until such time as I have seen substantive, concrete evidence to the contrary.
Craig Murray’s blog from March 17, 2018: “First Recorded Successful Novichok Synthesis was in 2016 – By Iran, in Cooperation with the OPCW”
“The line that novichoks can only be produced by Russia is now proven to be a complete lie… in 2013 the OPCW scientific advisory committee note the evidence was sparse that novichoks had ever been successfully produced, and that was still the line being published by Porton Down in 2016. You can find the hard evidence of all that here.
“I have now been sent the vital information that in late 2016, Iranian scientists set out to study whether novichoks really could be produced from commercially available ingredients. Iran succeeded in synthesising a number of novichoks. Iran did this in full cooperation with the OPCW and immediately reported the results to the OPCW so they could be added to the chemical weapons database.
“This makes complete nonsense of the Theresa May’s “of a type developed by Russia†line, used to parliament and the UN Security Council. This explains why Porton Down have refused to cave in to governmental pressure to say the nerve agent was Russian. If Iran can make a novichok, so can a significant number of states.”
“While Iran acted absolutely responsibly in cooperating with the OPCW, there are a handful of rogue states operating outwith the rule of international law, like Israel and North Korea, which refuse to ratify the Chemical Weapons Convention, join the OPCW or destroy their chemical weapons stocks. Russia has cooperated in the OPCW destruction of all its chemical weapons stocks, completed last year… Why nobody is even looking at the rogue states outwith the OPCW is a genuine puzzle.
“Extraordinarily, [or not!] only yesterday the Guardian was still carrying an article which claimed “only the Russian state†could make a novichok. Despite the lying propaganda regurgitated by virtually every corporate and state “journalistâ€, in truth is it is now proven beyond dispute that “of a type developed by Russia†has zero evidential value and is a politician’s weasel phrase designed deliberately to mislead the public. The public should ask why.
Source: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/first-recorded-successful-novichok-synthesis-was-in-2017-by-iran-in-cooperation-with-the-opcw/
So two weeks following the alleged #Skripal poisoning, “While [Boris the very dangerous clown] Johnson said that London would allow the international OPCW experts in The Hague to review the British analysis of the sample, the UK refuses to enact the mechanism in the OPCW that calls for a thorough investigation, the Russian FM noted. He added that “if you appeal to this organization, you must comply with the provisions of the convention that stipulate filing a request to us, because we are suspected of being a country of origin and even the country which had used this poisoning agent, and, providing us with samples of this agent, so we, together with OPCW experts, can analyze it.†https://www.rt.com/uk/421625-skripal-evidence-opcw-johnson/
Why on earth would the UK Government not want a thorough investigation? The rhetoric and hysteria surrounding this has been waaay over the top and beyond. Might they have something to hide?
Here is an excerpt from Craig Murray’s most recent blog published today, March 18, 2018:
Boris Johnson Attempt to Refute My Sources on Porton Down the Most Hilarious Fail
“The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) has issued a statement to refute my report from well-placed FCO sources that the British government continually re-uses the phrase “of a type developed by Russia†because its own scientists refused government pressure to say the nerve agent was made by Russia, and as getting even agreement to “of a type developed by†was bloody, the government has to stick to precisely that rather odd choice of phrase.
This is the official British Government statement:
“We have no idea what Mr Murray is referring to. The Prime Minister told MP’s on Monday that world leading experts at Porton Down had positively identified this chemical agent. It is clear that it is a military grade nerve agent of a type developed by Russia. None of that is in any doubtâ€.
Which is perhaps the most hilarious fail in the history of refutation.
The BBC sprung that statement on me during a live interview on Radio 5 last night. They also sprung on me a statement by the Israeli Embassy and were attempting to lead me into accusing Israel of the attack. But even the BBC interviewer, Stephen Nolan, was flummoxed by the rubbish he had been given from the FCO. Here is an extract from that part of the interview:
Continue reading here: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/boris-johnson-attempt-to-refute-my-sources-on-porton-down-the-most-hilarious-fail/
Here is the recording of Craig Murray’s interview on BBC Radio 5 yesterday, March 17, 2018 about the continued reference to the alleged #Novichok being “a type developed by Russia” during which they were up to their dirty state-sponsored tricks. Mr. Murray’s comments in his blog today, that “even the BBC interviewer, Stephen Nolan, was flummoxed by the rubbish he had been given from the FCO.” https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/craig-murray-radio-5-interview-on-skripal-attack/
I’ve seen this issue enjoy a very modest hang time in the local media which, being good lapdogs that they are, usually trumpets the western propaganda quite cheerfully, but this didn’t seem to stick. So I don’t see this as a stepping stone to WW3, to be honest. To be sure, it’s another brick in the wall, but not a milestone, according to this subscriber.
What I did find enjoyable was the recommended viewing section, more notably the “Not president” bid by Kokesh, something I was previously unaware of. I mostly agreed with Larken on his usually immaculate reasoning, but it appeared to me the point of having 60 million people in support of the anarchist non president was a hands down instant victory, something that may have flown over Larken’s head. But either way, to tout achieving 60m support as “practical” while 30 million or so would probably be enough to bring down the state is a tad ridiculous notion in my eyes. If Ron Paul’s bid was dropped like a clay pigeon in a masters tournament, imagine what would the establishment do to Kokesh. At either rate, his heart seems to be in the right place and beggars really can’t be choosers so I’m going to chalk this one to the trite “there’s no such thing as bad advertisement” adage; any bit of passing the word aroumd can only help.
Following the recommended balkanspost article, I landed on another one, from 10 days back, about the confrontation between a local MP and some EU crony.
http://balkanspost.com/article/469/croatian-ivan-pernar-confronts-eu-gunther-oettinger
Now, this guy never misses an opportunity to make a fool of himself, but there’s seldom anyone willing to discuss such matters in the public space, so, again, I have to conclude that beggars can’t be choosers and that anyone bringing these issues to light ought to be given the benefit of a doubt. To be sure, he performed well, dotted all the is, the translation is faithful to the original, the only part I didn’t enjoy was the very end, where he missed the opportunity for a more direct confronation. Emotional outbursts are better left out of it, but maybe he grew a bit weary and needed a break. Either way, I don’t find it at all surprising local media didn’t carry this story, so corbettreport had to lead me to it.
Excellent article, James. I love the fact that you are totally aware that in this game there are no innocent players.
When I was a child, I used to arrange Armadillidiidae races with my friends at school. We used to block them with our hands when they started going astray and once they got back to the right direction, we would leave them do their job by themselves. Sometimes we would hit our hands on the floor behind them to hurry them up.
To me, thats the way the CentralBanksters work.I just don’t know how long they are going to keep on preparing the stage for the installation of the new monetary system.
The computers they’ve already got. Miners will be much more interested in providing services to the BIS than to a small group of heroes who dream of a free society.
Sad but it’s true.
I’m sick and tired of this story which has been the focus of a large part of news media including the BBC here in the UK. I’m desperately trying to find how Brexit is progressing and the links with big British businesses going bust, but it seems no one is interested in Brexit anymore. How bizarre…
You called it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cMG33mWVY
(it is my opinion that brexit won’t happen. Worst case scenario, there will be another “vote,” one for which they’ll prepare better)
Well, you have to admit it, this fake crisis started locally with a massive internal push from British media, and has managed to divert everyone’s attention away from what Mrs May is doing with Brexit, together with the other incompetent players like Boris who seems to have no notion of politics, judging by the language used. Please Scotty, beam me up!
Oh, OK, I’ll admit it. I’ll also add that these “politicians” have gone from bad to worse thanks to the unthinking masses. A few decades ago you could still get a politician with some (at least apparent) character while today you get these semi literate imbeciles and (at least a part of the) crowds keep cheering them on. It’s become very common to vote for the least worst candidate, what could one expect?
Truth be told, when I watched some recordings of discussions held in the UK parliament I realized the mind boggling difference in attire, mannerisms, posture and conduct when compared to our local politicians here, therefore, I assure you, it can get a lot worse. At least they try to put on a show for you guys, here it’s same old shit for decades now. There’s a pool of topics useful for creating distractions, one by one they get cyclically pulled out of a hat, with the crowds none the wiser.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/03/19/porton-down-scientists-under-extreme-pressure-confirm-nerve-gas-russian.html
The BBC Media Editor just announced that Facebook is a massive surveillance tool. Cambridge Analytica CEO lost his job. Something is hitting the fan, for sure.
Sorry, just something about the BBC being the outlet to announce the (long obvious to anyone with a brain; which has never been a sizeable percentage of any population)shocking revelation gives me pause. Is this the same BBC which has my favorite propagandist Adam Curtis? The same one that inspired H.G. Wells? There is a trap in that glitch in the matrix if the BBC is uncovering it. JimBob: Just another redneck that gets squinty-eyed at outlanders what don’t talk right.
Skripals MI6 handler who lives in Salisbury apparently had lunch with him and his daughter on the day, this guy works for a private intelligence company, the same one that provided the Democrats with a “dossier of filth†on Trump.
You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49030.htm
Salisbury is my home town and as I child I cycled my bike around the Porton Down weapons ranges (probably explains why I’m so weird now) the main city hospital called Odstock has only a few police milling around and staff report no sign of Skripal his daughter or the poisoned police officer. The doctor in charge of the hospital stated to local reporters that they have NOT treated anyone poisoned by nerve agents but have treated unknown persons for poisoning.
Jeramy Corbyn is in my view the only honest politician in Westminster but he comes across as weak and rambling. He enjoys massive support and if there was an election held now he would surely win it.
…You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried….
The AngloZionist elites are putting on a full-court press against Russia, and while a well-informed understanding can make you just shake your head, it’s still sickening.
Baldfaced lies from the likes of Theresa May and clown Boris Johnson are so ridiculous they almost defy belief. And Gavin Williamson must have still harboured all the insults thrown at him in form school when he pitifully vented his spleen on Russia.
Despite the implosion of Mueller’s Russiagate witchhunt, and the stripping away of the integrity of the FBI and CIA, Capitol Hill still rants on with the old, debunked narratives. Russia interferred in our presidential election. Russia has territorial ambitions in the Baltic states and Ukraine. Bad Russia, wicked Russia.
Surely the silent majority is common-sense enough to discern and question the obvious disconnect between the facts and the political posturing. When does this travesty give rise to a widespead scream of “enough”?
On a post in here some months ago I detailed the features of the city in which I live that would make it a priority target in a full-scale nuclear war. I’m now still very much aware of my predicament as, for unfathomable reasons, the neocon ideology and its usual suspects push for a war with Russia.
The neocons are known for their gambit of doubling down when they don’t get their way. Do they believe that Putin’s Russia will eventually cave in? Personally, I don’t. Which is why I worry for our planet.
Why is so much stress put on nuclear warfare? As if conventional isn’t dreadful enough. Carpet bombing can set back your city as much as any nuke can, what’s difference between having your area destroyed by a single bomb and having it destroyed by ten thousand bombs?
“…what’s difference between having your area destroyed by a single bomb and having it destroyed by ten thousand bombs?”
The logistics of delivery.
ICBMs of all variants cover the distances involved in a fraction of the time that heavy bombers need to traverse to intercontinental targets. And modern air defences will shred conventional bombing attacks. This is not like carpet bombing Cambodia or Laos. The classic bomb payload has been replaced with cruise missiles (conventional or nuclear) in any case and the attacks are made in a stand-off posture.
As losses mount, and the death and devastation becomes widespread, it turns emotional, and escalation becomes inevitable. You get to all-out nuclear war anyway.
Well, I’m not a military strategist (not even an armchair general) but lets look at it from a simple man’s perspective. We can start with two simple assumptions:
1. technological progress involved in making offensive weapons follows that needed for defensive weapons (or is it the other way around)
2. each point of defense is good against certain types of offense but lousy against others
To that effect, carpet bombing does not initiate until ground troops take out defensive positions. Which involves dead soldiers on both ends, something that isn’t particularly PC anymore so generals resort to all sorts of measures to wage war without (too many) “good guy” losses.
Now, I do appreciate the threat potential of an ICBM (at a push of a button) and its ability to carry a nuclear warhead, however I have to question effectiveness of such weapons since it’s not like they have been live tested that much. We can remember the deployment of a relatively simple rifle (I think it was M16 rifle in Vietnam) that completely botched from start due to jamming often or vehicles like the Bradley which ended up costing a lot without any results (massive destruction) or the new soon-to-be-deployed fighter craft already costing trillions or … There’s quite a few examples I’m sure. Generals get to wet their dipstick, manufacturers get to make a lotta money, soldiers get to test and die.
I have a hard time believing the world’s end is cowering behind a push of a button. But I do share your disgust of destruction in general, of course.
“…I have to question effectiveness of such weapons since it’s not like they have been live tested that much.”
Rocket booster technology and guidance systems are tested everytime a new satellite is launched, or the International Space Station is relieved/re-provisioned, or a new interstellar voyage is sent off.
As to the destructive power of any nuclear warhead, I think the early work proved the capabilities and the subsequent mathematics, physics, and computer modelling took it from there.
In the efficiency department, you mustn’t overlook the deployment of multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles (MIRVs). It’s no longer one rocket, one thermonuclear warhead.
And as a further efficiency, not all MIRVs have a nuclear weapon onboard at all, as one or more are decoys to try and overload the tracking radar and spread the anti-missile defences. If you send a decoy on a NYC variable trajectory you can be sure to attract a swarm of ABMs, allowing the armed MIRVs to possibly attract fewer ABMs as they target Newport News and Kennebunkport(!), for example.
As a sidenote to the Skripal affair, I wonder if Tony Blair, in his private thoughts, ever thinks of Dr. David Kelly.
Great Fake Awards ceremony this year James. I like that it has the the same ongoing categorie themes each year and includes exposing the satanic rituals like the Free pizza’s vaccine shots, cover your heads in white table cloths shame one.
I need to bring to your attention James what has been happening in Gateshead,(yes your parents home town). Gateshead has gone 5G and Mark Steele has been fighting court cases and is documenting what is happening. Mark is saying that the speeds of 5G is way beyond human communication requirement and only really benefits machine to machine communication i.e. cars,drones and smart devices. But worse than this Mark is an Electronic warefare expert having working in the industry for decades. He recognizes it as battlefield weapon systems. It is a final solution urban weapon. Please watch this interview and make contact to interview him. He is a goldmine of information on this.
I think an interview with him would be great, bear in mind his got a strong Geordie accent in contrast to your adopted smooth west-coast American 🙂
Chris Lipthorpe
For all those interested in the silliness tht is the UK government’s official Skripal WMD narrative I’ve made a tongue in cheek video that may give you a laugh. Check it out if you’re interested.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5AryETogOnU/
Very well done, Ian. If we couldn’t laugh at the ridiculousness of it all, we’d go raving mad.