Interview 1284 – James Corbett on How the “Alt” Media Got Trumped
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Another November has come and gone and as the (s)election fallout has cleared we have seen the exact same swamp dwellers steering the ship of state (aka the USA Titanic) in the exact same way as always. So why did the supposedly “alternative” and “independent” online media fall hook, line and sinker for yet another political parlor game? And what does this teach us about how to avoid falling for the same old political nonsense in the future? James Corbett joins Vinny Eastwood on the Vinny Eastwood Show to discuss these topics and the state of the independent media.
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Vinny Eastwood, can I offer a piece of constructive criticism that your laughter is a little bit too strong. I apologize for saying that because an honest voice is always more important than “style points”. But I raise that issue because I feel like it might detract from your message.
One other point too is that I almost found it odd that you talked about Dubya stealing the election from Al Gore. Maybe I’m looking too deeply into that but I get the impression you believe it would’ve made a difference in the grand scheme of things. Personally, I think they were both part of the machine and this country would’ve gone down the same path regardless of whether or not Gore had won.
“Personally, I think they were both part of the machine and this country would’ve gone down the same path regardless of whether or not Gore had won.”
— Maybe, I guess we’ll never know for sure, but what gets me is that if this left/right paradigm is completely controlled then why did they feel the need to steal the elections in 2000 and 2004? Why did they feel the need to blow JFK’s brains out, if they completely control both political parties, you know what mean?
Probably derived from the notion that the whole thing is a monolith.
Personally, I think it’s more akin to late 19th century America, where the industrial titans would war with each other for control of the nation’s wealth, resources, and machinery of governance, but would band together to crush outside groups from gaining a foothold to challenge their hegemon, most vividly expressed in the labor movement of the time.
Interesting point. Then again, in 2004, Dubya pulled the “Swift Boat Veterans For Truth” tactic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_Vets_and_POWs_for_Truth) against John Kerry. Meanwhile both were in Skull and Bones. Tim Russert actually asked both about it (in separate interviews) and they both pretty much avoided the topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJDs1cg9Eo
As for Bush/Gore, I do think Gore would’ve almost certainly pushed the Global Warming agenda had he if elected. That’s why I don’t think things would’ve been all that different. However, it probably is a legit question to ask if 9/11 would’ve gone down had Gore gotten elected. Like for example, (from what I understand) Marvin Bush was in charge of security at the WTC.
In short, I don’t have a great answer for you but I think we all know something definitely doesn’t smell right.
In my opinion, there are two main factions of media: MainStream and Alternative.
The Mainstream Media is basically 5 corporations. Their slant could be hard to control for a Presidential candidate (unless you are Hillary or Obama).
The Alternative Media actually holds tremendous influence in this era. My guess is that about 20% of the population sometimes visit the Alternative Media.
(The MainStreamMedia will never tell us what the real polls say about this aspect.)
When Trump captured the hearts of many in the Alternative Media, he got some heavy milage for the campaign. I think that the Trump campaign recognized the value of the power of Alternative Media. I believe that the Trump campaign “recruited†the Alternative Media.
We do know for sure that Hillary would never be able to use the Alternative Media. She only had the MainStreamMedia on her side.
The headline of the vid is:
“Trump Betrayed The Truth Movement, James Corbett and Vinny Eastwood”
for me a part of the alt media betrayed themself and got Trumped by themself.. So blame yourself and not Trump just like CNN and the other fake MSM do, otherwise you are Fake Alt Media / FAM. FAM = MSM New Style but still the same mierda del toro.
Saludos para todos,
“Pablo” de Boer
It’s mierda de toro.
Mierda del toro would be the mierda of a specific bull.
Hola aloha RobinHood77,
I apply words as I want and not always how they taught me at school, because to be more specific, the school education is for me una grande mierda del toro 🙂 🙂
And I don’t suffer from Coprophilia 🙂 🙂
Viva la vida loca y saludos,
Pablo de Boer
Dear Pablo, anarchism in language is bound to cause confusion 🙂
Hola aloha mkey,
I’m as you know a technician and when I think outside (the box) what I learned at school, sometimes it leads to a new invention, which I never learned before.
So for me it was, is and will be always:
Mierda del toro y viva la anarkia (anarquia)
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (and)
others are always free to share voluntarily their own view and thoughts about grammar
🙂 🙂
How to give the Perfect Reply to a Grammar Nazi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW5m_y860hw
Saludos para todos,
Pablo de Boer
Ahhhh! Now wasn’t that cathartic… I feel better…
Can’t resist an impertinent side remark and so sorry for repeating myself but
I maintain that Trump was brought in as a scarecrow to make “uni-polar” US Hegemony, the American Dream and the Petrodollar seem old, stiff, inscrupulous, hysterical, individualistic, self-aggrandizing, bull-headed, unpredictable, artificial and totally obsolete,
when flaunted in the pristine light of the beautiful, self-sacrificing and sincere face of Angelina Joli’s UN-sponsored 17 global goals for sustainable development further embellished with the popular, poised, earnest and fashionable faces of a menagerie of other international super-stars and fun-looking people…
Trump’s also there to:
a. discredit climate skepticism, billowing the sails of the man-made climate change hoax and
b. make the alt media appear reactionary, both a. and b. by association.
c. make Obamacare seem like manna from the messiah and make the otherwise disillusioned masses nostalgic for Barry Soetoro and
d. perhaps one day provide a plausible explanation for how (deep-state planned) WW3 started: because a barking madman wearing a toupee was in office, of course. Because, war was impossible without that capricious, reckless multi-millionnaire controlling the red-button, right?
Trump is there to trump the longstanding unsustainable rags to riches dream that he embodies, help people mourn and reject the old world order and embrace a smart new promise…
he’s there to help usher in Agenda 2030 and the New World Order by donning the dark cloak of the evil and crazy villain against which the binary-minded population will react against opting for the pre-planned solution.
and he’s also there to prove to the masses that they can’t be entrusted with democracy and need to be lorded over by enlightened “multi-polar” technocrats.
Also I’ve noticed that both Trump and Macron have decided and declared that when it suits them they’ll just skirt congresses and parliaments all together and impose their will on the people like gods from on high.
(or what they’ve been told their “will” is by deep state handlers).
Alex Jones is the Don of the FAM and Ryan Dawson took controlled opposition AJ in 2012 to the Woodshed
Alex Jones taken to the woodshed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssxEvQNa16E
Alex Jones taken to the woodshed again and now with Alan Dershowitz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlwGiSaukvY
Well I see you’re into “one upmanship” Senor de Boer.
I mean THAT was one liberating “cathartic” video you posted there. (your first one: the second one wasn’t up yet when I started this comment)
Based solely on that video I’d have to say Ryan Dawson is one extraordinarily articulate guy.
I’ll definately be taking a look at his other videos.
(I haven’t watched your second Dawson link yet but I will now)
!Sigue asi!
uno mas amigo nosoapradio
Alex Jones Wood Shed II post Peirs Morgan side show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8MMI7dBQQY
And amigo nosoapradio is señor James also controlled opposition, because señor James appeared also on The Alex Jones show???
James Corbett on the Alex Jones Show – October 23, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhVs8KaTDyI
I’m just kidding on señor James, but Alex Jones I don’t trust anymore and he always behave as a braggart even in this interview with señor James. But I must be honest, because when I started to awaken just after 911, I watched a lot of Alex Jones documentaries and other stuff of him. After being confronted with Bill Cooper’s experiences with Alex Jones and Jones his Zionist behavior my attitude towards Alex Jones totally changed.
William Cooper – The Alex Jones Deception – (1-4-2000)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHXdz4ApxOQ
Bill Cooper Says Alex Jones Is a NWO Shill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Felb27Kkzbg
Saludos y buenas noches,
Pablo de Boer
Wow, if you listen to the longer link you hear Alex Jones pulling off a veritable Y2K Orson Wellsian “the martians are landing!” type stunt…
This just in! I’m bringin’ it to you live folks: Power plants shut down, 100s of thousands of people trapped in cities, no more water on store shelves!
“Putin the Ruthless” on insane power trip threatenin’ to nuke us all given any opportunity! spoutin’ off language that’s too profane to put on the air!
Was he just inventing it all as he went along as Cooper suggests?
Reminds me of when I was little, plunging into smelly coat and shoe filled closets urgently convinced I’d be transported to Narnia if I just believed hard enough…
unless he really was trying to create a pretext for martial law…
or perhaps it was a large-scale behavioral experiment on the masses…?
I guess we’ve all got a conscious or subconscious agenda that clouds our perception of certain issues while we’re stunningly lucid on others…
Mr Dawson, for example, seems to have a weakness for Obama and the U.N….
both of whom, I’d wager, are fairly well zionist-Rockefller controlled…
Then there are the professional manipulators and spin doctors… zionists, technocrats, terrorists And luciferians…
But seriously, what do I know?
It’s astonishing how truth can be used to obfuscate truth…
buenas noches, Ya me voy a la cama…
Buenos dias amigo nosoapradio,
Como estas hombre?
You quoted above that Mr Dawson seems to have a weakness for Obama and the U.N…., but when I listen tot this vid mad by him, I come to other conclusions:
Obama is Bush Dark
Published on Jul 15, 2009
Notice how the anti-war Obama crowd have shut up about the war now that their team is in charge of it? Leftists hated Bush not because of his wars and pointless spending, but because he was a Republican. When a Democrat is doing all the same things, they can look the other way because now it’s their team doing the profiteering and destruction.
NAFTA is the same, torture the same, wars are even bigger now, Propaganda with Iran the same, tension with Korea larger, debt larger, bailouts much larger, zionism the same or worse, exactly what did Obama change? NOTHING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TTIjuKWZts
And for me it sounds like Mr Dawson is talking about Mr Trump, which is logical because both are subordinated servants of the same Deep State aka the globkaki.
During the last year running for president campaign, mr Dawson also stated that Hitlery as well Trump are the same piece of Mierda del toro made by the kakistocracy. And Ryan last made a good documentary about Trump and his mentally circumcised Zionist pals from the big apples aka NY, “God is Not a Real Estate Agent, Trump’s Zionist Ball & Chain”.
And amigo nosoapradio as long the internet isn’t controlled in an Orwellian 1984 mode, there will be enough truth-seekers like señor James on the internet. And just like señor James also always says, don’t believe him, be always critical, investigate self and never depend on others.
And what for me personally also is very important, share always your own thoughts with your family, friends, at work and in public. And when you have good arguments and don’t behave like Alex Jones, a lot of people are open minded and willingly to listen is my own experience.
Or like what happened yesterday with me, some guy ringed at my doorbell and tried to sell me a TV subscription. I told him I don’t watch TV for more than 10 years, so I have no TV at home and he was flabbergasted. He said to me, that he couldn’t life without a TV and responded to him, that I don’t like to be lied (aka watch TV) and I’m not a member of the sheeple people herd. In Dutch they don’t have a good word for “sheeple people”, so I used the English words Sheeple People towards this salesman and he knew what it meant… And he immediately stopped his sales-talk and I wished him a nice weekend.
And now I’m going to the local market outside Amsterdam, because I don’t buy my food at big supermarkets or other giant stores, because that is sheeple people behaviorism
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo de Boer
Can you provide a link to Ryan’s statements regarding Obama and the UN?
Hey People!
Glad to read I was missed! (embroiled in a climate change debate with a neighbor)
So concerning my allegations that “Ryan Dawson seems to have a weakness for Obama and the UN”
that I made just after my stated epiphany concerning this brilliant and eloquent person:
After watching Pablo’s first 10-minute link about Alex Jones I went on to watch the first 10 minutes of his second 2-hour link:
Alan Dershowitz & Alex Jones Taken to the WOODSHED
where Ryan Dawson suggests at 8 minutes and 29 seconds that however minimal, the UN is ultimately having a positive effect on the Palestinian situation
and at 9 minutes and 29 seconds says Obama must have been pissed off that Netanyahu got “about 55 standing ovations” and so the president took vengence by voting “against Israel” and in favor of the Palestinians at the UN just before leaving office.
Mr. Dawson’s statements were fresh in mind when I wanted to thank Pablo for the links and make a parting point about us all having conscious and subconscious agendas that impact our perceptions of reality. And though it was quite clear I knew very little about Mr. Dawson as I’d just discovered him I used my new impressions fresh in my mind as an example of impacted perceptions.
Personally I don’t think Obama could have taken any concrete (ego-motivated) vengence of the sort, Even if he Had wanted to, were it not approved by the zionist deep state and it only served to make Mr Soetoro more popular amongst a growing number of world citizens indignant about the Palestinian situation…
and I think the UN also fundamentally exists, (among other more sinister reasons) to pay ineffectual lip service to international justice (when they’re not massacering babies, poisoning water with cholera and raping children). So I disagree that it can in any way be a positive influence for the Palestinians, but can only Appear to be, which is its mandate IMHO.
At any rate, I thank Pablo for the Corbett Report/Dawson links that I will watch asap. Even though I’ve been following Mr Corbett’s work since late 2008 more or less closely (according to the amount of work I have) there is clearly so much that I’ve missed.
And missing Mr. Corbett’s work is a shame indeed!
Hola aloha amigo nosoapradio,
This is Ryan Dawson one of his latest tweets about Israhell and the UN.
https://twitter.com/RyLiberty/status/883554488392364037
And your gracias / thanks are accepted.
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo de Boer
Estimados amigo mkey, HRS y nosoapradio,
Last weekend somebody from the US of A asked me if I’m affiliated with the Fraude Film Festival from Holland? And this is my answer..
I visited the website of the Fraude Film Festival in Holland and I was shocked when I saw who are their partners.
http://fraudefilmfestival.nl/partners
The FIOD is one of their partners and the FIOd is The Fiscal Information and Investigation Service, in Dutch “Fiscale inlichtingen- en opsporingsdienst” and is the Dutch Anti-Fraud agency. But the FIOD never investigates big fraud cases or banksters!!!!!! The FIOD acts in the same (pro banksters) mode as the IRS….
One of Netherlands’s biggest pirate banksters is ABN AMRO and the ABN AMRO is also a partner of the Fraude festival!!!!! Ai ai ai caramba…. After the 2008 financial crisis the Bankster’s from ABN AMRO received an extra (bonus) $6.5 billion (euro4.4 billion) bailout package from the Dutch government
Dutch give ABN Amro billions in new bailout
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/34038891/ns/business-world_business/t/dutch-give-abn-amro-billions-new-bailout/#.WWC914TyiUk
But the banksters at ABN AMRO got even more billions from The Dutch state as bonus for their Machiavellian bankster activities, because the Dutch state has committed more than €23bn (tax money) to ABN Amro and the nationalisation process, making it one of the world’s costliest bail-outs since the financial crisis began.
Dutch state to inject another €3bn into ABN
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/6608232/Dutch-state-to-inject-another-3bn-into-ABN.html
The tax pirates (advisers!!!) / accountants of Deloitte are also partners of the Fraude Festival..
Or watch this picture of the attendees from last year’s edition of the Fraud Festival
http://fraudefilmfestival.nl/fotos-fraude-film-festival-2016/
I began self to investigate who are officially connected with this Fraude Festival, when I saw their costumes, bankster’s suits, because all my alarm bells began to ring loudly and heavily. And my results I just shared with you all.
Having a preconceived opinion can lead sometimes to interesting information.
And dear señor James readers did you know that Holland is a tax haven / paradise for big corporations??? Watch this interesting documentary on how the Dutch Government facilitates big corporations to avoid paying taxes aka ‘Dutch Sandwich’ .
— Tax Free Tour HD VPRO Backlight (English Subtitled) 2013 —
“Where do multinationals pay taxes and how much?” Gaining insight from international tax experts, Backlight director Marije Meerman (‘Quants’ & ‘Money & Speed’), takes a look at tax havens, the people who live there and the routes along which tax is avoided globally.
Those routes go by resounding names like ‘Cayman Special’, ‘Double Irish’, and ‘Dutch Sandwich’. A financial world operates in the shadows surrounded by a high level of secrecy. A place where sizeable capital streams travel the world at the speed of light and avoid paying tax. The Tax Free Tour is an economic thriller mapping the systemic risk for governments and citizens alike. Is this the price we have to pay for globalised capitalism?
At the same time, the free online game “Taxodus” by Femke Herregraven is launched. In the game, the player can select the profile of a multinational and look for the global route to pay as little tax as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P057-k-hFY
That’s why Holland is still a medieval monarchy aka kakistocracy, a state or country run by the worst, least qualified and most unscrupulous citizens.
Holland has also pedophiles at the top, watch this interesting and informative documentary about the Dutch Joris Demmink, he was Head of the Police, Director General Justice and Director General for International Affairs and Immigration.
The Demmink Affair Compilation: Dutch/International Elite Pedophile Ring Cover-Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=729XdyCQXk8
And sometimes I read that people are afraid to lose these western traditions….. ai ai ai caramba
Saludos para todos,
Pablo de Boer
Hi Pablo,
Your comments about Holland being a tax-haven are spot on. The other things you mention about tax evasion by big crony cap corporations might tie in with some interesting info/analysis on the Corbett Report of late.
I’m not exactly sure which episode it was that I heard James say something about the whole tax evasion narrative with regards to the limited hangout of the Panama Papers.
Now I’m obviously not here for an exegesis about “James, Verse x Chapter y,” but I believe he was quite cautious about the fact that this narrative seemed to conveniently reinforce the global tax-grid agenda, with all the accompanying chatter about the need to harmonize taxes on a global scale and in the course of that effort get the evil tax evaders outed in the PPs. Sort of a Scylla & Charybdis thing to navigate for the genuine truth-seeker.
Cheers from Amsterdam,
Richard
Hola aloha / goede middag beste Richard,
Tax is for me theft, but I don’t support the corporations, because they are also thieves / pirates .
Did you ever heard of Ad Broere?
“Ad Broere is econoom. Hij heeft veertig jaar ervaring opgedaan in het bedrijfsleven, bij banken en in het onderwijs. Hierdoor is hij goed in staat om het ingewikkelde onderwerp geld, rente en banken op een begrijpelijke manier uit te leggen. Sinds 2007 is Ad actief als auteur en publicist. Hij schreef drie boeken: Een Menselijke Economie (2009), Ending the Global Casino (2010) en Geld komt uit het Niets (2012). Hij houdt regelmatig lezingen
And nowadays he even gives lectures at Dutch Universities about the Banksters. This is one of them at the TU in Delft
SG Archief | Geld Komt Uit Het Niets | Ad Broere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMVkZyxcTEY
Estimado Richard for me this is a good development and we need to spread and share our knowledge about the bankster’s behavior and activities with others.
And last but not least, Ad also wrote the book “Geld Komt Uit Het Niets” and I would recommend you to read that book.
Saludos en ik wens je het allerbeste toe in polder 🙂 :),
Pablo / Pieter-Jan de Boer
Nog een kijk en luistertip 🙂
De schaduwelite voor en na de crisis | Niets geleerd, niets vergeten
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raU4utEUte4
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo
Taxodus is a very interesting concept.
I find it hard to believe you weren’t previously aware of fine Ryan’s work. Shame, shame, shame.
I too had never seen Ryan Dawson until this thread.
I also must take the walk of shame.
Walk of Shame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_EuNmQOpbw
…which was taken from “Game of Thrones”, this scene (which is censored, i.e. no nudity)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWtS7jyhl-0&feature=youtu.be&t=1m22s
…and for those who are unfamiliar with “Game of Thrones”…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C29VyUYJg8s&feature=youtu.be&t=1m18s
You “good people of the town” lol
I’m not certain how to categorize public shaming. Is it in line with freedom of speach? Since there is no implied incitement to violence, I guess it should be ok.
Also, it’s strange how people react to “not watching game of thrones” similarly as to “not using facebook.”
But but but EVERYBODY is on the bandwagon…
Even though the show is not nearly as popular as the site in these parts. But in my experience those who watch the show make use of facebook as well.
Hola aloha amigos,
shame shame shame, that sounds like a teaching preacher amigo mkey, hi hi hi just kidding amigo mcei / mkey. But shame on you estimados HRS and nosoapradio 🙂 🙂
And estimado mkey as a good truth-seeker you asked mi otro (other) amigo nosoapradio the best question: “Can you provide a link to Ryan’s statements regarding Obama and the UN?” and which amigo nosoapradio still didn’t answer, because he can’t. Or amigo nosoapradio has to behave like señor James socialist boiled frog from hill billy country. The person who is defending on señor James webpage the UN path to tyranny and proclaims that some royal inbred dictators / monarchs are showing an ability to understand and share the feelings of another. He also admits that governments are corrupt and to solve that problem, he want to create another (socialist) government)..
Last you wanted to block señor James Boiled Frog estimado mkey and I fully understand why, but to be honest I adore the freedom of speech amigo mkey and when I read señor James’s Boiled Frog his statements, nowadays a big smile appears on my face. And When ignorance reigns life is lost.
And as bonus I recommend amigos HomeRemedySupply and nosoapradio to listen to these episodes of señor James and Ryan Dawson without a Woodshed
– Interview 820 – Ryan Dawson on Separation of Business and State
– Interview 836 – Ryan Dawson Looks for a Third Way in the Ukraine Crisis
– Interview 803 – James Corbett and Ryan Dawson on Terror Geopolitics
https://www.corbettreport.com/?s=Ryan+Dawson
Due to señor James I had my first Close Encounters of the Third Kind with señor Ryan. So muchas gracias señor James for sharing your talent and knowledge with us all.
Saludos para todos,
Pablo
Dear Pablo, I cherish the freedom of speech more then anything else abd I’d never employ censorship or argue for it or incite anyone into using it.
The block user feature I discussed before is simply a user option which allows for some filtering it isn’t censorship to any extent. Even if it has its limitations.
Hola aloha mkey,
I support you and understand you fully about señor James’s socialist Boiled Frog. In the beginning I even thought that is was señor James self and he was kidding and testing his visitors with a kind of mk ultra – or monarch program in a señor James style, hi hi hi. But I think now he is real and his thoughts too…..
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo
Pablo, mi amigo,
You said, “… But I must be honest, because when I started to awaken just after 911, I watched a lot of Alex Jones documentaries and other stuff of him….”
I also, and many others watched a lot of Alex Jones a decade ago. I attribute Alex Jones as one of the main drivers for the growth of the 9/11 Truth Movement back around 2006-2008.
LANDMARK 9/11 Truth Event on C-Span
American Scholars Symposium – “9/11 + The Neo-Con Agenda” – June 25 & 25, 2006 in Los Angeles. (The Loose Change guys at the end.)
VIDEO at C-Span (I am surprised that it is still there.)
https://www.c-span.org/video/?193155-1/september-11th-terrorist-attacks
William Rodriquez at the event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWo8zr7B1C8
Steven Jones at the event with his song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tng4xr7rTC4
Charlie Sheen at the event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T45eTWHuV6A
pdf about the event
http://www.jonesreport.com/symposium/Symposium%20Press%20Release.pdf
Alex Jones released his film “Terrorstorm” at the event.
The Loose Change guys also showed their film.
In case C-Span deletes the video, an audience member filmed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssWOe-jdoI
The summer of 2006 was alive with 9/11 Truth. Even in Dallas at the Lakewood theatre some 9/11 films were shown.
911blogger shows some of the activity during that summer.
http://911blogger.com/archive/2006_06_01_911blog_archive.html
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It is all about the message.
Hola aloha amigo HRS,
I will later as usual read and watch your shares, but first I’m going to the local market outside Amsterdam to bouy some fruits, vegetables and eggs.
Muchas gracias for sharing your own life experiences and knowledge amigo HRS. Keep on going with the same spirit estimado amigo HRS and never stop lovin life and our fellow humans. Create your own beautifully life dear fellow humans and never depend on others
One Love Bob Marley official video (HD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTY8H7zjdtc
Yes it not only mierda del toro what MTV as usual broadcast 🙂
Saludos para todos,
Pablo
Hola aloha amigo HRS,
My reply will be short and that is:
I still consider Alex Jones as a Narcissistic Zionist Shill and because when you spread the message in this way:
Alex Jones goes nuts on the BBC and host calls him an idiot & ‘worst person ever interviewed’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch9gQ9JOe3Y
It ain’t all about the message.
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo de Boer
Alex Jones back to the Woodshed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCs79KwmTlI
I think it is even better to put Alex Jones(town) in the woodshed for ever together with that drunk hollywood c-actor CS…
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo de Boer
Pablo,
I agree. I personally, emphatically don’t care for Alex nor his demeanor.
However, some of his guests (if Alex would stop interrupting them) and reporters occasionally have some great stuff. Important information.
For me, the importance lies in the message.
Examples:
Alex helped Richard Gage circa early 2008 – (fun 3 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qESG8_oyECk
Alex interviewed Willie Nelson who came out about 9/11 and Building 7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpH453BTUJk
(Later, Alex tried to bully/ramrod/manipulate Willie into a joint Alex/Willie event, but Willie just ignored it. Alex’s blunderbuss promotion of the event finally deflated. Embarrassing.)
Alex interviewed the Representative for the Farm Bureau which was trying to stop pending legislation… $175 Flatulence TAX per Dairy Cow – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB2wujQkHCM&feature=youtu.be&t=2m44s
And at times, Alex Jones has led some successful rallies.
At this 2008 Dallas “End the Fed” rally, I passed out 6 or 8 signs which said “TV Lies” (pink or yellow) to participants. Then I and other 9/11 Group members gave out 9/11 DVDs to everyone we saw. A lot of “End the Fed” folks in 2008 did not know about 9/11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Vkqcrfh9A&feature=youtu.be&t=2m25s
I have absolutely no interest in Alex Jones.
I do have an interest in some of the messages and causes on his show/website.
Do we have any real statistics of how many people in the truth moment actually fell for the Trump lie?
I accept that there must be some, but how many?
In terms of numbers of votes, Trump got less than Hilary didn’t he? And then of course we don’t really know the actual numbers because of voting machine fraud.
Also, I don’t count Alex Jones. The most rational explanation for him is that
he is a con man that would sell his own grandmother to make a buck. He is not the truth movement, however he is good at making a lot of noise to make himself appear to be a leader of some sort.
Mornin’ Octium,
I think Alex Jones could fall squarely into the Gatekeeper category:
he told Truth about Bilderberg, the D.C. Madam, climate change and certainly a pack of other issues that don’t come leaping to mind…
just to mislead people away from the critical truth of zionism. Come to think of it, revealing Bilderberg would put the focus on Rockefeller/Nazi criminals, taking it off the role of Israel and zionism in the world…
For Trump, I completely agree that there’s no way of knowing how many votes he really got but it’s pretty clear to me that he was put into office, just like the last présidents, by some entity other than the people. However, I’m sure he did garner a certain following by playing (sorry John and Sarah) The True Maverick!
But zionist Rothschild of course, predates and sponsors both the Rockefellers (et al) and the Nazis…
breakfast conversation…
I think Cooper does as well. I only watched one of his videos, but in it he said the only way we could have come up with the computer chip was through alien intelligence, I turned him off. To deny that only alien intelligence could do such a thing is as crazy as those Ancient Alien nutjobs. We ARE capable of greatness, just as we are obviously capable of great stupidity.
After hearing so much about Cooper I finally took a look at one of Pablo’s links about him yesterday.
I couldn’t continue. His hurting ego was too painful to listen to.
Can’t say if he’s a gatekeeper but he’s too difficult to watch for the moment.
I happen to believe human stupidity is of extraterrestrial origin. No way something as monumental could just come into existence.
Hola aloha amigo meky,
Were you yesterday boiling Froggs again? (hi hi hi)
Because señor James his mind controlled frog was yesterday total out of control as usual… Maybe he is an ET and trying to phone home… 🙂 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyFijjikkeM
Personal note, this is one of the first movies I watched on video (betamax) in my youth. And then I didn’t knew that Steven Spielberg is a Zionist.
Saludos y abarzos,
Pablo de Boer
I’d say we can gauge how many people fell for it by looking at alt media people. Those guys (and gals) are supposed to know better.
If MSM pushed it hard enough, Assad could become the next potus no questions asked.
My biggest shock on the Trump train was when I started watching a Stefan Molyneaux (sp?) video and could hardly believe what I was seeing. WTF!?!?!? Of course, when the election got near, I noticed he looked as crazy as a loon. Guess he is just left the land of the sane. Personally, I think it’s just a sign of how desperate people are to find someone (outside of themselves) they can believe in. Of course, that is the path to insanity. Oh well, such is life.
Ryan Dawson has a “woodshed” video about Molyneux and his talent for what he calls “side-door propaganda”. Fairly interesting!
Just saw this reply and am going to go look it up now. To think I thought I was just going to chill today. 🙂
Off Topic, but it would be good to see Vinny Eastwood get onto Bitchute.
I know he has been punished by Google more than most in the alternative media for exposing the Bankster ties of the NZ Prime Minister and similar things.
Hi James,
Here’s an interesting take on one of the reasons why people fell for the Trump lie (might be of interest to Octium). It’s an article on Antiwar about non-interventionism being a prime concern for those voters who seem to have put this clown into the White House.
original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/07/04/anti-interventionist-voters-elected-trump/
Notice that the analysis done by Francis Shen and Douglas Kriner sheds light on rational motives among some in the electorate. Can you believe that?
People not being sucke(re)d in by fear or any other irrational impulses, but rational self-interest concerning an issue that should be considered commendable from a voluntarist perspective. Could it be possible that people had serious concerns on their minds not fitting the fear-laden lemming stereotype?
Trump is a puppet, just like the other Thugs-in-Chief that the US has had, I get that. Dismissing people like they must have been manipulated by nazi-style fearmongering without paying any further attention to possible motives of a less sinister kind, what kind of analysis is that?
Must admit that initially, I couldn’t make it past the rather well-done Adenoid Hynkel impersonation by Vinny Eastwood. That was so funny!
Kind regs from Amsterdam,
Richard
And yet, one of his first acts as magical wizard was to drone strike kids in Yemen. Just like his cowardly psychopathic predecessor. And those same “rational” voters applaud his every move. Why? Because they are insane. Which is what you deserve when you give up your own authority.
Hi wingsuitfreak,
Agreed that people who applauded those strikes would most certainly qualify for insanity, but there’s a problem with your assertion nonetheless. You and I don’t know if those are the same voters that have been the subject of the study that I referenced above by Shen & Kriner. Did you read that study?
The people described therein were fiercely opposed to US foreign wars and interventions, so chances are that they wouldn’t applaud well.. yet another US foreign intervention.
Anyhew, the point is that one can signal the danger of voting for Trump, while taking seriously some of the motives among the electorate (sick of US wars, sick of the growing police state and the loss of individual freedom, etc).
Ron Paul could do that, because the man has class. He didn’t go for the easy and rather condescending explanation that potential Trump voters were primarily motivated by fear brought about through media manipulation. He most certainly didn’t go for the facile and rather oversimplified Weimar/Third Reich analogy, the way Mr. Eastwood did.
Kind regs from Amsterdam,
Richard
I haven’t seen the studies, but I have seen Trump’s supporters. They all appear to be as capable of apologizing for Trump’s “mistakes” as Obama and Hillary (and all the rest) supporters. Once people have vested themselves psychologically into a candidate it is very difficult for them to admit they were wrong. It’s a normal human response.
If you think about it, once you’ve put all your emotions into a choice; you will only see the results you want to see. These “rational” people are still emotional and flawed. Just as you and I are emotional and flawed. It’s part of being human. They may disagree with what he does, but that doesn’t mean they won’t defend his actions. This is why we hear so much about his opponents. CNN, Morning Joe, Deep State, these are his public opponents now. His supporters are given plenty of reasons to support his murderous intent. Humans are simply far too easy to manipulate over here in the land of the self-enslaved and cowardly. I’m only 57 and I can scarcely believe how far we have slid into crazy town. It’s truly amazing and horrifying. Thanks for your insight; though I didn’t truly address it’s finer points. Mostly because I agree with them. Cheers, Jim (from the incredibly insane state of Florida).
I’d have to put some time into reading that study (taking these for granted is kind of a cat in the bag thing) however…
While I haven’t followed the Trump candidacy with much detail, what I did see of it was a show. Pretty much like the world of wrestling thing. My opinion is that people who supported Trump did so because they accepeted to play the game title of which is “someone put forth two candidates and I gotta choose the one that is leas sickening.”
In my opinion that would have been Trump as well, however not because I believed anything he was saying, which was just a bunch of obvious lies, but because HRC is a female impersonation of the devil. Something one could prove easily.
I have no doubt that people with certain mindsets were congregated and were more probable to vote Trump going by his “promises” but if we assume he was reading a script (and I’m willing to bet whole of my scrotum that he did) I don’t think that was the main driving factor toward making such a decision. Believing obvius lies does not excuse one from making bad decisions. After all, how can one make a decision if they don’t understand the choices?
There are probably many features people who voted for Trump share, the most important in my opinion being they are not critical thinkers and are unaware of their surroundins. Granted, same could be said about the majority that voted HRC, but following that line of thought we go back to my inital premise.
Thank you for this timely commentary. I can’t say I was surprised how much of the “alternative” or “independent” media was groveling at the site of Trump becoming “President.” It’s as if they went into a collective hypnosis and suspension of all critical thinking faculties.
One particular “alt-media” figure I will point to, and who I called out on Twitter, is Jay Dyer over at JaysAnalysis.com. I have enjoyed his movie reviews from time to time, but his overall analysis on geopolitics and the zeitgeist is pretty basic, trivial and dare I say, childish.
When I called him out on twitter for this silly article “Why I Finally Converted to Pro-Trump” he reacted lambasting me and blocked me.
https://jaysanalysis.com/2017/01/29/why-im-finally-converted-to-pro-trump/
This is but one example of “alt-media” figures who drank the Trump Kool-Aid.
I enjoyed some of his writings, this information is saddening. But lousy news is best consumed as early as possible.
Hola aloha estimado Algorithm of Consciousness,
I had the same experiences with Jay Dyer. Last year I listened to his tragedy and hope episodes and they are very informative and interesting. I even subscribed to his page. After a month he began to erase my comments and I adore the freedom of speech.
And his temporal attitude towards Deep State Puppet Trump made him for me less trustworthy. Also his narcissistic and worse stand up comedian vids are so …. Just like Trump’s Westlring vids they are made of very poor quality, very bad acting and full with narcissistic behavior.
Or his thoughts on nuclear bombs are also so ridiculous and unbelievable. But long life the freedom of choice and that’s why I unsubscribed myself from Dyer’s webpage, even I paid for a year, I don’t visit his page anymore.
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo de Boer
Probably just a waste of time, but nevertheless just a little aside about Mr. Eastwood.
There’s been some pretty good info posted here on the con-artist Alex Jones and in a way I get some of the same bad vibes when I witness Mr Eastwood at work. Before the whole pattern of gatekeeping became clear to see for anyone paying attention, there already was something seriously off with the Jones character. Quite a few years ago, I caught myself thinking that I was looking at a cult leader or a prophet of sorts, complete with all the usual antics: inflated ego, unstable demeanour, impression management 24/7, incapable of conducting normal conversation, allergic to criticism, increasingly bizarro behaviour and apart from many other things all amounting to an avalanche of rudeness, also eminently unfunny.
I decided after yet another instance of not letting a guest like Ron Paul finish but a single sentence, that I’d had enough and just didn’t like his style (to put it mildly).
So on a hunch comparable to the one I had with Alex Jones, I did a quick search on Mr Eastwood. In short: don’t like the company this guy is keeping. Teaming up with some shady characters of the “Occupy Corporatism” hang-out, Mr & Mrs Posel, engaging in internecine alt-media wars and outright character assassination doesn’t exactly project an image of someone whose prime interest lies in truth-telling.
Sure hope I’m wrong about this, but just for the record: don’t like his style.
Cheers from Amsterdam,
Richard
Hi Pablo,
No room left in the above thread to directly reply so here goes..
Insgelijks om het eens lekker oubollig te zeggen 😉
And you’re right:
And that’s exactly where the rub is. The second part of your statement is being used by the globalists to justify their push for a global tax grid. I think that’s what James said (gonna look it up myself) and I agree with his cautionary comments.
Instead of “tax harmonization” it’s time for a tax revolt. Not only corporations (good and bad) but everyone should refuse to pay!
Must admit that I didn’t know the first thing about Mr Ad Broere, but a quick glance on his page tells us that he supports central banking, subsidized income and wealth redistribution by the state in the form of targeted helicopter money. I don’t support the welfare/warfare state and as far as economics is concerned, I’m in favour of Ludwig von Mises’ (Murray Rothbard, Jesús Huerta de Soto, Tom Woods) et al Austrian School of Economics.
All the best from Amsterdam,
Richard
P.s.: I posted this animation in the other thread also, but it seems appropriate to direct your attention to this 4 minute gem, just in case you didn’t already know about it. It goes against many of the state-sponsored solutions Mr Broere is suggesting.
youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
I just thought I’d post this little note in response to your statement concerning corporations. I personally have no beef with corporations. If they are large, it is because they are able to successfully market their goods and services. Once they start slipping in that regard, and fail to satisfy their customers, they get taken out of the picture.
In fact, even though many are corrupt, it is my opinion that it is only because the state is corrupt that they are able to continue on. Without the state’s inherent corruption, the market (providing we have an intelligent consumer base)would otherwise take care of any corruption in the market. It is only because the state is willing to accept payment to initiate force and deception that the fraudulent corporations are able to stay in business. Just my two cents worth. By the way, good to see I’m not the only Tom Woods and Mises Institute fan! Greetings again from the insane state of Florida! Jim
Hi wingsuitfreak,
Ditto re Mises et al (and Ron Paul of course; that’s where it all started for me).
About the quote: I can understand where people are coming from when they oppose “Big Business”. Have been there myself. But it’s just half the story. The other half (the part about the corrupt state that’s always left out) is the one you provided and I thank you for it.
Tom Woods is one truly inspiring individual who “cured my apathy” so to speak. He makes the important distinction between political and free market entrepreneurs. For me, this proved to be the “difference that made the difference” and set me on the path to the Mises Institute.
I am convinced that those who rail against “capitalism” lack the information necessary for them to realize that they’ve been duped by corporatists (political entrepreneurs) who get a kick out of dressing up like free market advocates. I’d like to convince some of the more well-intentioned people among those, that they’re actually already free enterprise an-caps at heart, but for the right information that is lacking. Hence the quote from Pablo’s comments about taxation (as theft) and corporations.
So I have no problem at all when businesses grow and get big by serving their customers in a free market, while I do have a problem with corporations who team up with the state, seeking corporate welfare at every turn and use state force to eliminate competition. That’s not free market enterprise, that’s a state within the state. And to leave things on a more radical note, I’ll one up you on the anatomy of the state in that I believe the state is indeed inherently corrupt but also inherently evil (yes, Lew Rockwell fan too).
All the best from Woodenshoesland,
Richard
I’ll raise you with a (bad paraphrase of a)quote by H. L. Menkin (sp?): The state is not necessary but it is evil. 🙂
Miderfroinder: you obviously have not lived through the destruction waged on a small town or county seat. The complete destruction of the diverse web of trade and social fabric by the likes of the giant Wal-Mart octopus. Carpet bombing (economically) an area the size of Dresden is comparable, physically, morally reprehencible to the fire bombs dropped there. Oh yeah I’m a capitalist but when you have to bury the 1000 stinking dead carcuses of 40 to 50 tax base entities while the one huge criminal fire bomber (parasite) sets tax free for 10yrs. you might rethink why or how this Natzy got into the city of Pleasentville USA. Do you get my point? It only takes a few bribes and commissions to destroy a way of capitolism that was diverse, vibrant and healthy. It works when men use power legitimately and its like burning Dresden when illegitimate power is let loose. For what its worth. Alvedersain Miderfroinder.
James has it all wrong on Trump and I’m sure he must have lost a great number of subscribers. And I too may cancel my subscription. Trump knows his victory was achieved in great part due to the support of major alt medias, first and foremost Infowars. He knows he cannot afford to loose them, which gives them tremendous influence, but ONLY as long as they SUPPORT him. It was thanks to the strong reaction of his support base in the alt media after the attack on Syria that Trump rejected the plan of McMaster to send many ground troops to Syria to topple Assad. If the alt media had followed James’ advice and had not supported Trump, we may now be all dead, because Hillary would have escalated the war, which may very well have started WW III, which very quickly would have led to nuclear Holocaust. And if they had abandoned him afterwards, they would have thrown Trump in the arms of the neocons. Alex Jones revealed some time ago that Trump has invited him to Mar a Lago and that he would have been ready to talk a lot with him. And that it was JONES, not Trump, which rejected the proposition (first he said because family obligations, but later admitted that it was because he feared the reaction of the media). Such a level of influence and power in unprecedented and James does not address this point at all. Nor does he address the attacks by the deep state against Trump, which is total proof that Trump is not their puppet. To oppose Trump is tantamount to support the deep state.
Mind the slippery slope, Larry.
Hola aloha amigo mkey and Larry,
Estiado mkey the left – right paradigm still works..
I follow señor James and subscribed to his page due to señor James his exposure that this L/R paradigm is a big pile of the same mierda del toro.
And amigo mkey did you already watched Ryan Dawson’s latest documentary on Trump and his mentally and fiscally circumcised Zionist compadres?
And dear Larry are you also a supporter of the Zionist state Israel like Dumb Trump, Hitlery Clinton and Alex Jones(town)?
Donald Trump Aipac Full Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQgDgMGuDI0
Hillary Clinton speaks at AIPAC conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtfxZT_lqv8
In this age of technocracy it is possible that Trump and Hillary are genetically modified from the same genome, because both serve the same masters and that’s why both also speak the same mierda del toro just like Alex Jones(town) or those other servants of the globaki The Young Turks..
Saludos and enjoy your weekend estimado mkey and you too Larry
Pablo de Boer
Hi Pablo,
Like James, I’m a full fledged anarchist and thus against all states, Israel included. And I won’t let the Israel question to obscure much more important questions like the US-Russia relations and the prevention of WW III, unlike far too many.
Cheers
Larry
Hola aloha Larry,
An anarchist who supports a Zionist politician.. Wow that’s new for me. But long life the freedom of choice y libertad pura
And before Trump was selected by the global kakistocracy and got in the Oval office, Russia and the US already did big business with each other. Henry Kissinger is another puppet of the Deep state / the globkaki and big amigo with Putin. Kissinger visited many times his big amigo Putin even before puppet Trump was allowed to sit and follow orders in the oval office by the Deep state. Even RT mentioned it last year.
Putin meets ‘old friend’ Kissinger visiting Russia
https://www.rt.com/news/331194-putin-meets-friend-kissinger.
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo
And estimado Larry,
Putin is not only big amigos with Henry K, but also with Bibi N and even helps Bibi N with steeling the gas from the palestinians.
read this comment of mine / me ,
https://www.corbettreport.com/china-and-russia-creating-alternate-banking-system/#comment-37954
And Tsar Putin is not only a gasgarch but also an oiligarch and that’s why Russian oil companies do big business with their western oil-alliances. Because you have the Russian oil companies such as Lukoil and Rosneft and these companies do many businesses with dubious countries with murderous regimes such as the USA. And therefore the Russian Rosneft has established a strategic partnership with the US ExxonMobil as mentioned in the article @ the Exxonmobile website
Rosneft and ExxonMobil Expand Strategic Cooperation
http://news.exxonmobil.com/press-release/rosneft-and-exxonmobil-expand-strategic-cooperation
Not only Henry K. and Vladi P. are good amigos of each other, because
the American oil corporations and Russian oil corporations are jointly robbing the oil in countries like Mozambique
Rosneft and ExxonMobil Declared Winners of the Mozambique License Round
https://www.rosneft.com/press/releases/item/176781/
And estimado Larry,
Last but not least, Rosneft also collaborates with British Petroleum
BP’s risky Rosneft relationship: ‘We work in countries with ups and downs’
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jul/31/bp-risky-rosneft-russia-relationship-work-in-countries-ups-and-downs
One of the favorite tactics of the Deep State is.
The Hegelian Dialectics and it still works….
Hi Pablo,
I know all this , old stuff. But HK is not in charge since a long time, he was actually quite critical of Obama’s foreign policy and feared the worse, for good reasons. There’ not one global “kakistocracy”, there are factions. We all know that Trump was helped by elements in the IC and they’re certainly not clean (at least not all), but he was by VERY FAR the lesser evil.
Pablo, that’s just old old stuff, it don’t matter no more, why do you keep mentioning it? Lets just burry it and pretend it never happened, ok? OK.
Also, Kissinger just APPEARS to be heavilly involved with all of these aristocrats and selected people on left and right, west and east. Just as you and I would appear to be heavilly involved with them if we were to meet with them every day. Kissinger is history, so just drop it, ok? OK.
If ww3 goes live, mossad will be making decisive moves to make it happen. Ignoring a nuclear rogue state over a false west east paradigm is no laughing matter, you’re making a substantial mistake.
I’d urge you to get a new compass Larry, you seem a bit lost.
Hola aloha amigo mkey,
Did you already saw this vid?
Jack Posobiec vs Jason Bermas on Trump Ties To Bilderberg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4eduhwUWCQ
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo de Boer
Havn’t watched that one either, however given Trump’s background I dare asssume there’s a lot of his connections to bilderbergers et al.
I’m not a fan of bilderberg meetings as is, doesn’t really pass the smell test. IMO too many people invest too much of their valuable resources following that which may be just a show for the masses.
Jason Bermas
I really like him, as a person and as a long time activist.
I had dinner with him once during the “Loose Change – Final Cut” theatre showing in Dallas. Even the Dallas County Sheriff came to watch the film (via some very clever marketing with sending out “FREE VIP PASSES” and nice letterhead to public officials).
This scene opens with him talking to one of the co-authors of the published peer reviewed papers on the thermitic material found on 9/11.
Eustace Mullins is also in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMV-QwXDI1c
So much wrong stuff about that video, dear Pablo.
Saudi Arabia did 9/11? Can’t believe she did’t mention the 28 pages.
Trump repealed Obamacare? What the hell do they think he’s gonna replace it with? What did he do about that ‘lock her up’ affair? Or the wall? Or the swamp?
Bermas didn’t do a good job of establishing communication, he was just dishing it out. Tye first section of the video was greatly inaudible because of it. That Leigh woman did a better job of it, but these people should really dig in into these key subjects. As long as they are honest about their work.
Hola aloha estimado Larry,
You write about Dumb Trump “but he was by VERY FAR the lesser evil.”, for me evil is evil and I consider Dumb Trump just as evil as Hitlery Clinton and her pedophile Bill and the Bush Mob.
HK was never in charge, because he always obediently follows the orders of the Deep State and that’s why HK and Dumb Trum met each other in the oval office.
President Trump, Henry Kissinger Meet In Oval Office Amid Watergate Comparisons
https://patch.com/us/white-house/president-trump-henry-kissinger-meet-oval-office
Did you watched Ryan Dawson’s latest documentary “God is not a real estate agent”. It is very informative and …. watch and judge self estimado Larry.
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo
Dear Pablo, I haven’t watched that video, but will later this evening.
Loose change remains my favorite 9/11 documentary. That he didn’t get any awards out of Hollywood (even though crappy movies easily win) says a lot about that crowd.
I never manage to get past 30 seconds mark on these AIPAC videos, my gut starts turning and twisting and I have to quit watching abd just bail out.
https://youtu.be/LGcjAdwRkZg?t=1m11s
Hi Larry,
It’s quite refreshing to see a comment over here which strays (or that strays? Can a native speaker tell this Dutchie which one is correct here?) from the usual consensus.
However, if the Deep State can fake “terrorist attacks” all over the globe, than they can also fake “grassroots opposition” to their agenda.
So I work on the assumption that Alt-media outlets with any lasting impact are almost certainly compromised and function as controlled opposition to one extent or another. The tactics may vary from subtle gatekeeping or limited hangout to blatant disinfo, but IMO they have one thing in common: they all echo parts of the political/economic philosophy that inspired the one genuinely grassroots threat to the US system that no too long ago really scared the Deep State and that was the Ron Paul R3V. In that respect (and in that respect only, I might add), these outlets are at least more worthwhile than the 24/7 brainwashing that’s going on in the MSM, and that even goes for the obnoxiously Israel First Infowars channel.
Kind regs from Amsterdam,
Richard
Oh boy.
than = then
Hi Richard,
As for your first question in parentheses: both are correct.
Your assumption however is a logical fallacy: A can fake B, thus every kind of B “with any lasting impact” must automatically be fake. There are countless people pretending that Infowars is “controlled opposition”, but nobody has ever brought the tiniest shred of proof and everybody who has followed AJ for a long time knows this to be utterly absurd. I was part of the Ron Paul Revolution and the Campaign for Liberty, which has also supported Trump’s campaign, after Rand Paul got out of the race in the primaries. Actually, the RPV was the first act, the Tea Party the second and the Trump election the third chapter of the populist uprising in the US. The final objective is the full victory over the deep state and the globalist Establishment.
Also, you do not address the fact that the pro-Trump alternative media have successfully prevented an escalation in Syria, thanks to their support of Trump.
Cheers
Larry
Hi Larry,
– Your misrepresentation of what I said sure sounds like a logical fallacy, so congrats with that.
– Israel first = controlled op. Simple as that.
– The Campaign For Liberty is not the same as the Ron Paul Revolution, not when this campaign supported Rand Paul and most certainly not when it later supported Trump.
– Attempting to retroactively involve Ron Paul in a “populist” uprising is misleading, and it is common knowledge that the Tea Party got co-opted. Populism btw, is a term used by globalists (at least over here in Holland) to frame all of this as battle between progress and backwardness. Ron Paul was about Austrian Economics in action and (consequently) individual liberty. That’s not populism, as you might know if you’ve followed Dr Paul for perhaps as long as you’ve followed Alex Jones.
– I wouldn’t object to addressing a fact, but what I get is mere assertion.
Apart from all of this, good to hear you’re a full fledged anarchist. Interested in Austrian Economics as well?
Cheers,
Richard
Hi Richard,
I let the readers decide if I misrepresented what you wrote above (which may not be the same as what you really think).
AJ is no Israel-firster, that’s BS.
Yeah, the RPR was one thing and the Campaign for Liberty something else and large parts of the Tea Party were co-opted, I agree with all that (but that does not contradict what I wrote previously). Populism has a more neutral meaning in the US and Ron Paul would certainly identify as a populist. It basically means anti-Establishment.
I converted to Austrian Economics long ago (that’s how I got to know Ron Paul, long before his campaign in 2007), but have read other, more convincing stuff since. Alas, it has never been translated into english.
Hi Larry,
What did you convert from and what exactly was the convincing part of the other stuff?
Curious about the more convincing stuff. What’s it called? Can you provide a link or a name of a leading scholar/author/publicist or anything?
Thnx.
Kind regs from Amsterdam,
Richard
When you study economics at the university, either you’re left wing and become Keynesian or you’re right wing and become monetarist. As I was right-wing on economic matters, I became a monetarist and was a big fan of Milton Friedman. But monetarism has no good explanation for the bubbles, so I slowly converted to the Austrian school and first adhered to the orthodox “hard money” faction, against the “free bankers”. After the financial crisis, I was interested in who predicted it the most accurately and noted that the deflationists were much more accurate than the inflationists (i.e. the “orthodox” Austrians). So I became interested in people like Antal Fekete, who adheres to the real bills doctrine / banking school. And finally someone led me to Paul C. Martin and his theory of debitism, which is a combination of the property economics paradigm of Otto Steiger and Gunnar Heinsohn, the credit theory of money of Mitchell Innes (PCM never cites him in his books and I do not know if he had read Innes at the time he developed his theory, but it’s basically the same), the state theory of money of Friedrich Knapp and explains the long waves documented by Nikolai Kondratiev and Ralph Nelson Elliott (it is 100% compatible with Elliott Wave Theory). Unlike Austrian Theory and mainstream economics, it’s 100% compatible with all past and present empirical findings about money, finance and economics, especially the long **absence** of metallic money during Roman times (but with an already developed economy).
@larry,
Thanks for the info. It’s somewhat reassuring to know that at least you didn’t go full retard by converting to all out MMT. Though I don’t buy into the Innes (Graeber) stuff about credit, it made for some interesting discussions that provided necessary updates to the standard Mengerian story about the origins of money.
See you around,
Richard
I used to go to the infowars site years ago but left because it was so blatantly obvious that he had an agenda that was not what he claimed. Is he insane? Probably not, he just seems that way to people who are unfamiliar with Texans. They are a different breed. And no, I am not attacking Texans, they’re just a lot different from the rest of the states. However, he did employ a lot of tactics that an astute observer could easily catch. For one, they began censoring their comment sections (not from the trolls, just anyone with a question that they didn’t like). I also caught him on interviews with people who were not conducting themselves in a fear-mongering manner. They would go into breaks, and then the entire tone of the interview would change. He would rant on and on about how we were just sheep and allowing the government to walk all over us, yet he would follow that up with a plea for us to just do nothing. There were thousands of little things that could be attributed to bad journalism or mental illness. However, those are exactly the kinds of people the FBI was seeking to enroll in their programs. And we all know how AJ loved to brag about his connections in these government agencies. I think he is a combination of horrible journalism and dis=info. However, I think his dis-info isn’t the normal sort. He wants the crazies to go on to his comment section so the FBI can monitor them. That is probably the main way he sold out the people as near as I can tell. Of course it has been some ten years since I listened to him, so my memory is a bit vague on a lot of his stuff.
TEXANS
Jim,
Yep, you’re right. Native Texans are a different breed.
(30 seconds) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxnieYctVM
It has been said, as a stand-alone country, Texas would be the 10th largest economy in the world.
In actuality, different parts of Texas have different genes. I lived in most parts. East Texas is more prejudice. West Texas is more Cowboy or Oil. For example, even up to the early 1960’s, Greenville, TX (an hour east of me) had a banner over Main Street which said: The Blackest Land – The Whitest People. (IMAGE) https://jthomashutton.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/greenvillesign-1.jpg
I live a few miles from Southfork Ranch of J.R. Ewing & “Dallas” TV show fame. (One minute) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsVZUJVVaIE
The trailer park across the road from Southfork is cut from the TV show.
And speaking of trailer parks, to get a real taste of TEXAS wit, you got to check out Joe Bob Briggs. I insist.
https://www.corbettreport.com/censorship-in-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-40084
If I had my way in the school system, I would have kids watch episodes of “Rawhide”. I kid you not. Ethics, decency and Anarchist ways are taught in that show.
I lived in Texas for seven years. Dallas for six, and this little place called Trenton (pop. 297) for one. I loved visiting the Southfork Ranch! It was hilarious! I recommend it to everyone. I agree on Rawhide as well. Rowdy was a good start for an exceptional man. Two of my top three favorite westerns are his. The Outlaw Josey Wales and Unforgiven were amazing. Only topped by the remake of 3:10 to Yuma. Been a long time since I’ve watched Rawhide. Damn! Now I want to see if the DVD set is available.
– Trenton, TX – Yea, nice country!
An ex-business partner of mine lives out in the boonies near there. I spent a few weeks visiting farms and ranches in Bell (NNW of there) selling aerial photos of their property (before the age of Google).
Less than 10 miles due north of Trenton, they are building Elite Underground Doomsday Bunker Condomiums called “Trident Lakes”.
https://www.tridentlakes.com/news
Why have I heard of Trenton? What’s so interesting about it to have it made through to the other end of the world?
Oh, there are 23 towns with that name in US alone lol
If you go to Whitewrite (just a few miles away) they had (in 2005 anyway) the absolutely best ribs in Texas. And yes, I know how serious Texans take their meat! lol No Food Lion’s in Texas!
Up the road from me about a 20-30 minute drive…
What’s This Croatian Village Doing In Mckinney, Texas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxeawyYHtgs
@ wingsuitfreak
Which agenda? AJ has two parallel agendas which for him go together (and I think he’s right on that question): commercial success and take down the NWO. He’s certainly very far form being perfect (even on a moral level) and he readily admits so himself, but he’s tremendously efficient (as an entrepreneur) and talented (as a talk show host). I follow him for more than a decade and he certainly never told anybody to “do nothing”, I wonder how you could interpret that from his words. Yes, he grew up in a family full of CIA agents, he said it several times, and also talks a lot about people “high up” in the military, but he never mentioned FBI ties to my knowledge (Doug Hagmann may have some and there’s “FBI anon” at Victurus Libertas’ blog). These people may not be as clean as they present themselves, but they provided useful information during the campaign, helping to defeat the Hilderbeast.
I’ve heard him tell his audience to do nothing, right after complaining no one would stand up to the government. Why would he mention the FBI? Do you think he would be THAT stupid? I think he is more of a barometer and a gatekeeper. He also draws out the crazies. Same as that other hate-monger that got outed as a right-winger that was being paid by the FBI to do just that (as in drawing out the crazies). I forgot the guy’s name, but the last name was Savage, I believe. Yeah, he loves to talk about his “access” just like MSM reporters. Remember, if you have access, that means you are most likely being controlled by that access. And as far as useful info, so does Noam Chomsky.
I do not believe he said that, I think you interpreted that way or that you have to place it in a certain particular context. Because I always heard him say otherwise, which would be completely contradictory. As for the other guy you’re mentioning: no, it is not Michael Savage (how come you do not know this guy, he’s very famous?), it’s Hal Turner and he’s been completely exposed by Infowars. To compare him to AJ is absolutely ridiculous. Having access does not mean being controlled, at worst it could mean being manipulated, one has always to take that into account. Chomsky has given useful info in the past, but he’s against Trump and thus a useful idiot of the deep state. He’s been exposed by James and even more so by Peter Schweizer: https://worldpeace365.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/noam-chomsky-do-as-i-say-not-as-i-do-2/
Believe what you want. I know what I heard. You want to believe that chump, go ahead. I honestly don’t give a rat’s ass. And I am not talking about the person you mentioned, Turner. AJ loves his access, that alone makes him vulnerable. If you want to worship at his feet, go ahead. But don’t act like some crazy jeezus freak trying to convince me. I don’t like kool-aid.
What I can say with 100% certainty is that he has not said it in the last years. You admit yourself that you have not listened to the show for a decade and Infowars has changed quite a lot since then (mainly as a consequence of a changing political landscape and rapidly growing revenue, but also because AJ has now a much bigger network of insiders providing him information). Infowars has been absolutely key to the Trump victory, which would have been unimaginable 10 years ago (or even 5 years ago). And again, I don’t “worship” him at all. Look at the comments below his videos, nobody does. There’s no cult. His flaws are so apparent that he just cannot be some secret double-agent, he would be completely incapable to play such a role.
I’ve seen excerpts of his show. You’re right, he’s different. He’s much worse. But his acting unhinged shouldn’t act as a deterrent. But like I said, I heard what I heard. If you can’t figure it out when you listen to him, I sure can’t convince you in a comment thread. Question authority means any authority. Everyone has an agenda, and while I don’t know what AJ’s agenda is, I do know I’m not on board with it. If you are, that’s fine; but I prefer critical thinking than having someone try and play my emotions. That always turns me off.
I agree, we have to question any authority. But the supreme authority (power) in the US is not the president, it’s the establishment and the deep state. They attack Trump on a daily basis. But he’s resisting and when you say “there is no real change”, that’s simply not true. Look at Syria for example: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-ends-covert-cia-program-to-arm-anti-assad-rebels-in-syria-a-move-sought-by-moscow/2017/07/19/b6821a62-6beb-11e7-96ab-5f38140b38cc_story.html
That AJ paints Trump in a much too good light is clear to anyone, nobody needs the Corbett Report to explain that. Trump is incredibly incompetent and ignorant, but he’s well meaning and needs to be supported.
Larry,
If that article has any truth, this is good news to me. Thanks.
I am no fan of Presidential leaders nor government/global authority, but I certainly am a fan of peace and man’s humanity.
On a TRUMP related note and about the viral Pastor prayer “laying of hands on Trump” photo…
From just a perspective of “Folks Who Are Awake” view, it is interesting to see this talk to the congregation. The Minister talks about the 6 Media Corporations, the globalists, the neocons, corrupt politicians, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuWTZg022lc&feature=youtu.be&t=14m30s
(For my personal tastes, this type of venue/delivery of ideas is not my cup of tea. But it was interesting to see.)
Larry,
Unfortunately, TRUMP has out-killed civilians over Obama.
Things look grim for Peace and Humanity.
Corbett mentions stats here…
https://youtu.be/kSMGzEsz4K0?t=5m2s
Rewind for other Trump War Monger News.
@ HomeRemedySupply
Thanks for your link, which is indeed interesting, because it exposes this stuff to people who may never have heard about it.
When it comes to war casualties, Trump may indeed be worse in the short run. But this is due to the fact that he wants to actually win (and thus END) the war. The military-industrial complex wants never ending wars, which over longer periods causes a lot more casualties (and brings in a lot more profits). Now James mentions the sanctions against Iran and interprets it immediately as a first step towards a new war, which is very speculative (the US would face huge opposition not only from Russia, but also from China and many European countries, Germany and France among them). And of course, he does NOT mention AT ALL the ending of support for al Qaida. As he does not mention the attacks and plots of the deep state against Trump. Everything which does not suit the narrative is just ignored. Also, I never see/hear Corbett debate other opinions. I just preaches to the choir.
Hola aloha Larry,
You are repeating what the voting cattle aka sheeple people always bleat and that is old stuff.
But I’m muchisimo feliz you are still visiting señor James page, because one week ago you wrote:
“James has it all wrong on Trump and I’m sure he must have lost a great number of subscribers. And I too may cancel my subscription.”
Saludos y abrazos,
Pablo de Boer
Larry,
I gotta admire you for saying what you believe and supporting it with information.
Thanks for being you.
We all have our own personal perspectives.
Sharing them in a …a community based on cooperation, exchange and friendship… (Catallaxy) helps us all better conditions.
Catallaxy defined – https://www.corbettreport.com/what-are-you-going-to-be-when-you-grow-up/#comment-38612
Larry, I’m ending this thread. Sorry, but I don’t think you’ll ever figure it out. You go ahead and support AJ and tiny hands; you keep on railing against the enemies they have given you to rail against. I don’t care. What I do care about is not wasting my time anymore just stating the obvious. AJ is BS and so is the Dump. I’m picky about what I eat. That you aren’t as picky isn’t my concern, you go ahead and chow down all you want.
He does address these issues. Factions within the elements of the horror we call government. It’s embedded within all of his podcasts. And isn’t it amazing how grandiose the opposition has to be in order to get our saviors into office? I was born in 1960 and remember laughing as a kid when the teacher was panicking as we were told to practice cowering under our desks to save us from a nuclear explosion. We were way out in the boonies with no reason to directly hit us, though that didn’t enter my mind at that age. But even I knew that a freaking desk wasn’t going to make any difference. We kids all knew the teacher was panicking in a hilarious way. Laughter really is a powerful weapon.
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Laughter really is a powerful weapon.
@ wingsuitfreak
Yes, but not in a convincing way, at least not to me. The scare you’re alluding here is the same as the one today against Russia, but you have to admit that Trump is not part of it and that is not small potatoes. In the 80ies, Reagan’s rabid anticommunism led us on the brinks of nuclear holocaust and it could very well happen again. I do not think James has addressed that. Realists à la Henry Kissinger may be criminals, but they’re still much more preferable to neocons or “progressive” (globalist) regime changers. Trump is a realist.
You hear of Trump and his trade bills and stuff like that; but what do you hear of his banking reform laws? Nothing. These laws are what is truly crippling the economy. Naturally, putting Goldman Sachs types in office will do nothing. Freezing accounts for days will cripple small business, and nothing is ever mentioned about this (or numerous other crappy laws). Not to mention the story I just read on Activist Post where they are now telling us that we are going to have to submit to biometric scans if we want to exit the United Nazis. There is no real change. There won’t be any real change. Unless you count the poor being poorer and the few being richer. Oh yeah, it looks like DARE is coming back to our schools to make sure those last few kids get addicted to crazy ass drugs. The future’s so bright, I’ve gotta wear shades.
There are a lot of articles about his dismantling of Dodd-Frank, but I do not know what you mean by “freezing accounts for days”. What’s crippling the economy is the debt burden, but nobody is going to address it before a new crash, anything else would be political suicide (far too many would loose a lot). The Goldman guys won’t survive a new crash and depression. Trump could if he took decisive action and the crash does not occur just before the elections (in that case he’d be sure to loose).
Checks greater than a certain amount (it was 10k, but now I believe it is 2k) have to be frozen for about ten days now. This is not for security, as that can be checked instantly. It is a free-ride for the banks as well, because that gives them free money for their over-night loans. What they’ve done to small businesses in the name of terror has caused far more damage than any terrorist group (outside of the state). HomeRemedySupply just recently got updated on all of it. So, he could give you a very comprehensive account of the stupidity of it all.
James, I want to start by saying I voted for Jill and my thoughts on Trump involved one issue and that was normalization of relations with Russia (I think I told you this before). I didn’t concern myself with who he picked for various positions and only look at what he has accomplished on this issue alone. Despite massive pressure by the Deep State owned MSM, the CIA, FBI and NSA sabotage and oBOMBa sabotage he is plowing ahead with that promise. In the past week he has pulled CIA out of the Syria war, the Pentagon has finally acknowledged that they are in Syria illegally (which means they will have to leave when the war is over), a Cease-Fire Zone has been established in the SW of Syria near the border with Israel which caused Netanyahoo to have steam coming out of his ears. Then a member of the Russian Duma told him to cool it (this is the main benefit of normalization of relations with Russia because they can tell Netanyahoo to sit down and shut up). All of this means that Oded Yinon and 7 countries in 5 years is now down the tubes and therefore Zabig’s plan to control the Grand Chessboard also is down the tubes which also means the Globalists plan for the Brave New World Government is also down the tubes. In addition the Pentagon just released a study that says the US grip on world power is being loosened because of a MultiPolar reality of control of Eurasia by Russia, China and Iran all of whom have been great powers in Eurasia for thousands of years meaning regime change operations (which are all CIA covert ops) won’t happen in any of these countries. Several weeks or so prior to all of this Zabig and Rockefeller died (soon to be followed by McCain due to aggressive brain cancer which spreads tentacles through out the brain; how about that for justice!).
Organizations of all kinds are factionalized and that includes the Freemasons. Trump’s faction is tired of having American GIs used by the Anglozionists to fight and die in their wars and sacrificing America for the Empire. The people who voted for Trump want their country back and don’t want their sons, daughters, fathers and mothers to continue to be maimed and killed for Empire. You and Vinny (who I had not heard of prior to this interview) are not Americans and may not have the same understanding of this concept but that is what I see. Trump has moved forward on normalization with Russia despite overwhelming opposition and this appears to be unstoppable now.
He has had other side benefits that he promised like killing the Paris Accord, killing the TTP, TTIP, ending the political future of the Clintons and Jeb Bush, smashing up the Gulf monarchy alliance and shaking up the EU. Webster Tarpley called him the ‘Trump wrecking ball’ (http://twsp.us/sites/default/files/styles/newsletter___full_size/public/briefing/11811354_1005388929513873_7358862914596407789_n_0.jpg?itok=LB2MFyQ5)way back during the primaries and he has wrecked the Democrat party and the Republican party as well. So he has wrecked a lot of things wanted by the Globalists and he doesn’t hate the Russians like they do.