Brexit: What Does It Mean?
Congratulations, Britain! You’ve thrown off the yoke of the EUreaucrats! Now go out and celebrate!
…But before you go, we have a few things to discuss. Like the Brexit-geddon tearing its way through the markets. Or the EUpocalypse of disintegrating unions and crisis meetings. Or Soros and the hedge fund disaster vultures. Yes, I’m sorry to be that guy and ruin the festive mood, but as I noted on Friday, this is not the end of the road by any means. It’s just the start.
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The only good outcome of the Brexit vote would have been if the British public wanted more personal power back from the UK government. But nah… immigration.
I think that the Racist ‘Little Englander’ tag is more convenient than it is accurate.
In a western country where people’s jobs have been offshored or replaced by technology, having a large in flux of immigrants has made life tangibly harder for many people in Britain.
This chart shows how immigration has been the main driver of population growth in the past couple of decades:
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/resources/cht2populationchange_tcm77-368323.png
We also have (comparatively) a very generous welfare system. It was not a system designed to deal with the kind of population growth that free EU population movement has created.
Yes, I too noticed that the Leave campaign and its allies used the ‘bloody foreigners’ tac, and quite simply it’s both worrying and sad. But unfortunately it has a valid foundation.
I’m not trying to argue anything here. I just like to reserve my judgement to facts rather than statements that are just constantly repeated.
I don’t disagree with your analysis. I’m just saying that the high-flown principles expounded by James and other independent researchers are actually very elite in the sense of restricted to the few, for reasons of time, education, critical ability etc. When it comes to majority-based politics these principles and ideas will always be overshadowed by more commonplace memes and easier to understand rhetoric, such as those based on the scarcity-induced immigration problem.
Why deny it? In most of the European Countries it can be observed: A remarkable shift to the right during the emigration wave through the East European Borders, coming from Afghanistan and Syira. Austria has build up border walls defying the European Schengen law (open border law). Hungary has is own policy and is ignoring the quite violent but utterly helpless – and some say hypocritical – criticism of the European Union. (Who is that anyway?)
Remember? “Tens of thousands of refugees were forced to remain in Hungary under terrible conditions, and Germany declared itself willing to take in most of them. This statement, made in the context of images of German railway stations, where friendly citizens welcomed thousands of refugees with gifts and signs saying “Refugees welcome!â€, was understood worldwide as being an invitation to hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria and other countries in which people are suffering from civil war and violent persecution to come to Germany.” (Political Issues from a Contemporary Historical Perspective, 2015)
With all due respect: Denying that in England there was no reaction to this events is just not accurate nor very sincere, either.
That is the reason why I agree with James. In my words: Let’s party, but not completely unconcerned and not for to long.
What are you saying I’m denying? My comments didn’t deny anything as far as I can see. Don’t understand your comment at all.
@bubromer: I am so sorry. But I was actually replying to Lances comment. And in addition to my prior words: Lance is right. Of course, it would not be accurate to interpret the votes for Brexit as ‘racially motivated’. But from my point of view the increase in rightÂwing nationalism following the largeÂscale acceptance of refugees from other cultures should be considered.
(Maybe I should stop writing here, because my poor English may lead to more missunderstandings.)
No problem.
The coincidental (or is it conspiratorial) numerology of Brexit for those who believe in an occult-obsessed hidden hand behind global political events.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsSN3dSp-FI
The more I think and read about Brexit the more I see that I was shortsighted about no possibility of it. With world economy (the whole system in fact) in dead end street, chaos is what they need, to hide real problems. Also, for quite a while production of chaos is the only industry not in recession.
Once I read somewhere about Dulles’ (CIA) statement that fits well nowadays. Supposedly he said that their main objective will be achieved when everything that people believe will be wrong, false.
There is an interesting article by Takis Fotopoulos (“leftist statist”).
http://www.globalresearch.ca/brexit-globalization-and-the-bankruptcy-of-the-globalist-left/5519403
This days (how convenient) central bankers have a meeting in BIS to make some “damage control”.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-22/boj-s-kuroda-to-be-in-switzerland-as-brexit-results-announced
voltairenet’s take on US/NATO plans after Brexit vote:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article192532.html
It was decided to do everything to prevent the Downing Street appointment of the Conservative Brexit leader, Boris Johnson, and to promote a “consensus” personality able to “reconcile” the British.
The release of official news (http://www.tvp.info/25939371/nasz-news-superpanstwo-zamiast-unii-europejskiej–ultimatum-francji-i-niemiec) about the ultimatum (http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit) that was given to Poland and all other Visegrad Group members, which if enforced will eliminate all sovereignity (including military) analysed together with another article at Voltaire Network:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article192212.html
written by a young Polish politician whom I happen to know and trust (moderately), gives a grim picture.
It looks like the EU is to be quickly transformed into a military extension of anti-Russian US “boots-on-the-ground” policy. The definition of a “hybrid war” allows a fully totalitarian control of the remaining EU population. All the old conspiracy “theories” including and not limited to Gladio point out to a big revenge of the nazi on the Russia. Operation Barbarossa anniversary chosen as a date for Operation Anaconda maneuvers looks very much like a threat statement.
Brexit is the best thing that could have happened to the EU.
European and American Banks have already started moving some of their operations from London to relocate in Paris, Frankfurt and Dublin.
Meanwhile Scotland is exploring either a Veto or looking into another possible independence referendum in order to remain in the EU, and N.Ireland might actually seek for reunification with Dublin.
While it’s true there are some malcontents within some EU countries, in reality there more countries seeking to join the EU rather than leave.
England and Wales stand to lose big! This wasn’t about “independence”, this was about Xenophobia and Jingoism.
Of course, I’ll be proven wrong if they go the next step and throw out all of the banksters, but like I said, Brexit is about breaking up the EU not about Freedom.
What a fascinating few days. I have thoroughly enjoyed them. I have personally been revelling in democracy loving statists becoming hypocritical, anti-democratic, ageists overnight. I have even upset my mum and my best friends who all voted ‘remain’. I am residing in a gay-like closet, hiding behind anon social media accounts from my work colleagues (who all voted ‘remain’) and feel if I came out of the closet, work opportunities would be affected.
But I still feel pretty good.
I think I can repair the damage with my family and friends, I may never come out of the closet, but now I have loads of anti-statist arguments that I can slip into conversations and hopefully set some seeds of doubt.
However, in real life, I only know one other ‘leaver’. I don’t know whether other ‘leavers’ are hiding in closets too, but it does seem out of proportion considering I reside in a city with a 50/50 split in votes.
That just leads me to wonder. We know that TPTB could have rigged this vote in their favour. So…maybe they actually did.
After reading the comments above I am feeling happier about Brexit, but also have fears about the divisiveness which appears to have followed and preceded the debate. During the Scottish independence referendum, Murdoch decided to back the campaign to keep Scotland in the UK, and henceforth the campaign was won with lots of fear-mongering and propaganda.
This time Murdoch has done quite the opposite and played the leave card, admittedly differing in his different rags, but overall pretty much in favour of leave. So if anyone has any views I would like to ask a couple of questions.
Firstly if Murdoch’s plan was to get the UK to leave the EU, what is his part in the global power elite’s plan, if they were trying to keep the UK in the EU. Is the UK (or England and Wales if the Union is broken) some kind of pawn that will be made an example of when they quit the EU and some kind of financial/ societal armageddon hits? Is it just a simple divide and conquer strategy? And do people on this thread really believe that the vote has gone against the wishes of our hidden masters?
James I really hope you can do some kind of updates on the whole thing as my head is spinning with it all like most of the UK.
Oh and what a Stater, I am living in the North of England most people locally seem to have voted leave, and put it down to immigration. Not the best reasoning at all in my opinion, but if I can be persuaded that Brexit is for the best, then maybe I will be able to stomach it better.
After reading the comments above I am feeling happier about Brexit, but also have fears about the divisiveness which appears to have followed and preceded the debate. During the Scottish independence referendum, Murdoch decided to back the campaign to keep Scotland in the UK, and henceforth the campaign was won with lots of fear-mongering and propaganda.
This time Murdoch has done quite the opposite and played the leave card, admittedly differing in his different rags, but overall pretty much in favour of leave. So if anyone has any views I would like to ask a couple of questions.
Firstly if Murdoch’s plan was to get the UK to leave the EU, what is his part in the global power elite’s plan, if they were trying to keep the UK in the EU. Is the UK (or England and Wales if the Union is broken) some kind of pawn that will be made an example of when they quit the EU and some kind of financial/ societal armageddon hits? Is it just a simple divide and conquer strategy? And do people on this thread really believe that the vote has gone against the wishes of our hidden masters?
Oh and what a Stater, I am living in the North of England most people locally seem to have voted leave, and put it down to immigration. Not the best reasoning at all in my opinion, but if I can be persuaded that Brexit is for the best, then maybe I will be able to stomach it better.
On RT on Friday morning 24th, a UKIP MP said that the UK could be out of EU by today if they revoked article 73 (?). Did anyone else see the interview? I’m afraid I can’t remember the MP’s name and UKIP Daily website is down or moving – crappy timing or what?
I’m becoming increasingly irritated by the rhetoric from all sides since the referendum result. The reasons for voting to leave have become narrower. Immigration seems to be the only subject being discussed. Sovereignty, control, freedom from an unelected, unaudited (18 years now?), corrupt Brussels and negotiating better trade deals with whomever we want all seems to have been forgotten. Why is no-one looking at the 171 countries who are not in the EU for examples of (and european) economies doing very well thanks to NOT being in EU eg Norway, Switzerland and Iceland (the later also is the only nation to actually jail their banksters for their part in the collapse of the Icelandic Bank – not a central bank as the media constantly tried to make the British people believe).
It’s the easiest ploy in the world to blame immigrants when the economy is collapsing – if you’re blaming your neighbour you’re not looking at the banksters right?
When we moved to France end of 2009 the exchange rate was 1.09 euros to pound. 1.23 is what it’s been on average for the last 6 years. I have absolutely no doubt that the currency markets have made the parasites even richer – shocker. Someone said that the strengthened yen against pound is actually going to be more catastrophic for Japan’s exports because it is good for Britain’s. It will all settle down in a couple of weeks and return to status quo. sorry James.
A swift exit and short sharp period of pain is what we should fight for. James is right that a protracted period of negotiation will lead to us being in EU in all but name.
Well said.
The whole situation is being framed in such a narrow and uninformed way it is deeply frustrating to read any articles or forum comments about it. It is very pleasing for me to read such an informed post.
Okay, let’s look at Switzerland. In 2014 People voted in favor of a so called mass imigration initiative (“Masseneinwanderungsinitiative”) that has to be legislated after 3 Years. The aim was to regain control over imigration (percentage of foreigners 2014: 24.3%) Considering the narrow time frame of the legislation the pressure to find a solution with Brussels is getting bigger. The implementation of the new law has to be in 2017, right? The negotiations with Brussels until now were not very constructive because Switzerland as a Third State has signed the agreements with the EU/EFTA enabling the free movement of persons as a condition for unrestricted access to the Community’s internal market.
After Brexit there is a completely new situation for negotiations. I agree that Immigration should not be the only subject to be discussed, but for me it is as clear as crystal that the negotiations between the UK and the EU will be completely interlaced with the agreement of the free movement of persons. For Switzerland imigration had a positive impact on the economy. But for the people it can be perceived as positive as well as negative.
Sorry for persistently pointing out, that this vote was never per se just economically motivated. It’s about identity, too.
An interesting article and email from King World News reader
“Please, please, please, do not listen to the distorted views of the mainstream media. Yes, immigration is a major problem. But not THE REASON why the we voted to leave the EU. We as a people have demanded our country back from the unelected elites which have become our masters.
An unelected EU government with no opposition, with the power to make our laws and determine how we live our lives. Immigration is a secondary topic, the economy is secondary, if we are worse off we will live with our decision. If we suffer, so be it. Our freedom and the freedom of our children is much more important. People have died in the millions to fight for this basic right. We have given a shining example of democracy to the world. We have put our country and our future above our individual interests.
The British lion has awakened from a long sleep. Today I have never been more proud of the silent, decent Briton who stood up to be counted.â€
http://kingworldnews.com/a-stunning-email-about-brexit-vote-as-elites-panic-and-global-collapse-edges-closer/
We are being gamed.
The British slaves were allowed to vote, with pencils on paper ballots. The opportunity for fixing the outcome was there, it’s always there. Yet, the slaves prevailed.
Really?
The ruling elite is going to allow Britain to leave the EU, possibly leading to the collapse of the EU. This is more likely a set-up to show other nations what will happen of you try to break the chains of bondage, or a reboot, clear the cache and cookies, to ready the system for Globalism 2.0. (or whatever number we are on.)
Someone please explain to me why we should believe this is the beginning of a real revolution.
It’s about time theres’s something to celebrate! Even if there is a second vote and Britain doesn’t leave the EU, it’s still a victory. People are starting to understand what is going on. However, this new global financial paradigm we are entering is coming no matter what. The divided and conquer lines and being feverishly dug with the immigration into the EU and United States. When the financial overhaul takes place they want the outrage directed at everyone else but themselves. Classic divide and conquer! They are exacerbating the racial divides in the United States very rapidly. I just made a video on my new youtube channel discusing this very thing.
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Great article James!
I’ll raise a glass with you and toast of one small victory, of many more to come!
I am always turning over rocks to see what is on the other side.
When I heard the results of the vote, my stomach sank. I felt like this was the feather before the sledgehammer hits.
There is some interesting analysis in this article:
http://redefininggod.com/2016/06/globalist-agenda-watch-2015-update-13-why-the-globalists-are-demolishing-the-eu-what-its-replacement-will-look-like/
Basically that the globalists are going to break down super-states into smaller bite-size chunks and bring them under the UN’s boot.
A small but perhaps interesting fallout development from Brexit; our new (unelected) PM Theresa May immediately closed our Department for Energy and Climate Change. Admittedly it won’t be because she wants to actively disrupt the global financial gravy train that is the environmental agenda, but perhaps an example of the 2D national political right wing agenda (as per previous PM Cameron “enough of this green crap”) getting in the way of the 3D globalist agenda?
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/climate-change-department-shut-down-theresa-may-decc-closure-biggest-mistake-global-warming-a7138606.html